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Idaho Needs More Power but Parts of Oregon Object. Utilities are trying to build lines to transport clean energy across states but face local resistance
Wall Street Journal ^ | December 30, 2019 | Jim Carlton

Posted on 12/31/2019 5:04:43 AM PST by karpov

LA GRANDE, Ore.—In this small town in eastern Oregon, renewable energy is widely popular. But the power lines needed to transmit it aren’t.

La Grande is one of many communities nationwide fighting against transmission lines being built to keep up with a surge in clean-power generation.

“We need to develop more renewable energy, of course, but it shouldn’t come at the cost of damage to our last remaining wild places,” Brian Kelly, who helps lead a green group in the area, said of a proposed transmission line that would run through the nearby forest.

Utilities are under pressure to put up more power lines because many clean-energy plants are being built far from major cities. Renewable energy is generated from sources like the sun or wind that don’t get depleted, unlike finite amounts of oil and coal.

There were about 2,500 planned or newly completed transmission projects in the U.S. last year, according to the Energy Information Administration. While the federal agency didn’t have historical data on such projects, it estimates industry costs for transmission-related operations increased to $11.4 billion last year from $6.7 billion in 2009.

About 900 new plants, most of which produce renewable energy, were proposed last year, compared with 300 in 2004, said Glenn McGrath, an analyst with the federal agency.

“Regardless of where you go, there’s always some issues—whether it’s bats, whether it’s birds, whether it’s wealthy landowners who don’t want their view interrupted,” said Dan Shreve, wind-energy research director at consulting firm Wood Mackenzie. “As a consequence, you see these initiatives drag on forever.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Idaho; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: electricity; powerlines; renewable
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Yeah, we're going to replace all fossil fuels with renewables in 10 years.
1 posted on 12/31/2019 5:04:43 AM PST by karpov
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unlike finite amounts of oil and coal.

You're a damn liar, Jim Carlton! As long as the earth's tectonic plates continue to subduct each other it will continue to produce oil and coal. You may as well declare water a finite resource. Which it would be if evaporation and precipitation ever ceased.

2 posted on 12/31/2019 5:25:09 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: karpov

We have a 5th Column in our nation working hard to weaken us from inside. I suspect most of the foot soldiers are nothing more than pawns but those that are providing the money and guiding them certainly know what they are doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column


3 posted on 12/31/2019 5:29:02 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: karpov
While the federal Energy Information Administration agency didn’t have historical data on such projects, it estimates industry costs for transmission-related operations increased to $11.4 billion last year from $6.7 billion in 2009.

Wait a minute. How can you estimate anything without data? The Energy Information Administration should change its name to the Energy Bullsh*t Administration.

4 posted on 12/31/2019 5:31:41 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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“Yeah, we’re going to replace all fossil fuels with renewables in 10 years. “

Try to run an induction blast furnace with solar panels.


5 posted on 12/31/2019 5:33:18 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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To: karpov

Whoa! There’s my path to billions. Wireless power lines. I better seek a federal grant pronto.


6 posted on 12/31/2019 5:33:31 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: karpov

He wants Tesla transmission.


7 posted on 12/31/2019 5:35:40 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Or try to fly to a Global Warming summit on a solar powered jet.


8 posted on 12/31/2019 5:35:50 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

““We need to develop more renewable energy, of course, but it shouldn’t come at the cost of damage to our last remaining wild places,” Brian Kelly, who helps lead a green group in the area, said of a proposed transmission line that would run through the nearby forest.”

All your power are belong to us!


9 posted on 12/31/2019 5:36:08 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Resist we much!


10 posted on 12/31/2019 5:37:17 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Maybe if you burn the solar panels?


11 posted on 12/31/2019 5:40:06 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: karpov

I would require all “green” technology to be manufactured using green technology. No diesel to mine, transport or to manufacture any steel component....no manufacturing using any electricity having any fossil component...no installation or excavation using any fossil-powered construction equipment. Make exasperated greenies admit publicly there is nothing that can be done to advance “green” tech without a heavy reliance on fossil.


12 posted on 12/31/2019 5:42:31 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Texas Eagle

Look up Nikola Tesla. He was making good progress on large scale wireless power transmission a century ago.


13 posted on 12/31/2019 5:46:49 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Hell, just try to power a elec fence in area like MI where the sun doesn’t shine for days/weeks.

The ‘battery backup’ will be the only thing powering it until it goes dead.


14 posted on 12/31/2019 5:49:21 AM PST by Beagle8U (Did Eric Ciaramella kill Epstein? He didn't kill himself.)
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To: Texas Eagle

350 years of proven coal reserves in North America.
There’s plenty of time to develop an alternative.


15 posted on 12/31/2019 5:49:30 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: ctdonath2

Dang it. He’s got a head start on me. I better get on it.


16 posted on 12/31/2019 5:50:17 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Again, that's if the Earth's processes that created that coal in the first place stops. If it does, we got bigger problems on our hands.

Unless you accept that Jesus is your Lord and Savior.

17 posted on 12/31/2019 5:52:53 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

So what does this Brian Kelly fella think we should do? Carry the electricity in buckets?


18 posted on 12/31/2019 6:04:06 AM PST by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Right and it’s time to stop using that idiotic term fossil fuels.


19 posted on 12/31/2019 6:06:04 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Texas Eagle
I find it remarkable that there are so many types and qualities of coal.
I mined Illinois Basin coal in the 70s. The same coal seams are found (with different names) in West Kentucky. East Kentucky is apparently older, with mostly lower sulfur and higher BTUs.
Illinois Basin includes coals from Iowa (three or four different seams) Missouri and Indiana. Some is strip. Some is deep.
Western coal from Wyoming and Montana has come to dominate the power biz. Near Gillette, the coal in 100 feet deep and 100 feet thick.
20 posted on 12/31/2019 6:10:05 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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