IG Footnote 474 – Confidential Human Source, W/ Delta File, Previously Inside Trump Campaign…

CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE ^ | 12/24/2019 | SUNDANCE

[dsc]

“Sorry to hear that your experience was so difficult.”

Hey, life is hard.

[dsc]

“That’s why IMO there need to be massive cleanouts and restaffing of many agencies”

All, IMO. Top to bottom. Every time I recall my doings with DOJ I want to take a shower.

[GOPJ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rogers_(Michigan_politician)

He worked as a Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation in its Chicago office, specializing in organized crime and public corruption, 1989–1994.

He is a member of the Society of Former Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. In 2017, Mike Rogers was interviewed to be the new director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, after James Comey was dismissed.[2

[GOPJ]

The modern intelligence apparatus has a history of leveraging/turning compromised politicians into assets Ping

[GOPJ]

The modern intelligence apparatus has a history of leveraging/turning compromised politicians into assets...

So many people are going down...

[deks]

Thank you for your informative post (but see #15 about the middle initials of the two different Mike Rogers)

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3803377/posts?page=15#15

[Wuli]

Our Middle East so-called “friends” have excelled at the development of friends all over the U.S. political and government establishments. Those American friends don’t excell as much at truly understanding the cultures of the Middle East as they do at just believing what their Middle East “friends” tell them. Thus so much American diplomacy has been based not as much on knowlegde as it has been on just knowing what the Middle East sources want their American friends to think.

[Syncro]

I was really just interested in how easily it could be understood by Freepers that Obama and Clinton were pursuing such a plan, that their real object was to turn the entire ME over to the Muslim Brotherhood types****

I'm one of those.

wasn't that part of their objective?

BTW thanks for your excellent fact filled posts.

[Syncro]

“That’s why IMO there need to be massive cleanouts and restaffing of many agencies”

All, IMO. Top to bottom.

Yes, thanks.

[Forgiven_Sinner]

Israeli intel could have and probably did clue them in on various issues, but again the lack of understanding or expectations that simple power would prevail are really unfortunate. How is it that some of the Founding Fathers with far cruder tools and a more limited knowedge base were able to see the Muslims so much more clearly than their modern day counterparts?

They understood religious beliefs and that Muslims would fight and die for their beliefs. Modern politicians and bureaucrats have a secular view of the world and because of their false beliefs, deceive themselves.

[dsc]

“wasn’t that part of their objective?”

Yes, of course, but there are lots and lots of people who never suffered even a suspicion of the truth, even though they witnessed the same events we did.

[Syncro]

How true.

And it’s so much more than what we mentioned.

Of massive Biblical proportions.

[Syncro]

True.

How very true.

[Wuli]

“I looked at this from the local level. The political fight is a religious fight, or the religious part is used in political fights, across the region.”

Yes, some part of the civil and political unrest first in Lebanon, then in Iraq and over flowing into Syria is and was the Sunni vs Shia divide and Sunni interests (Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the Gulf states) against the Shia Mullahs of Iran adding their own proxy wars against each other to the immediate local conflicts.

Were Iran still a mostly secular Muslim country, as it was under the Shah, the sectarian religious proxy war conditions would not have played as large a role in the Middle East conflicts as they have since 1979. However much the Shah was any kind of tyrant, he was right to keep the clerics out of politics. And then, they, the clerics did not invent the “nationalist” push against the Shah, Komeini and his crew just hijacked it and took control of it before it was done. Most of the coalition against the Sha had democracy and not a theocracy in mind, but most of those in the coalition not with Koemeini were pushed aside, assassinated, exiled, jailed or executed after Komeini’s crew took over.

THAT set Iran as a religious antagonist against all major Sunni interests, because the Mullah’s care less about “Iran” than they have about trying to make Shia Islam ascendant over Sunni Islam.

That fed into the civil wars in Lebanon, the internal covert Iraqi opposition to Saddam via Iranian supported Shia of Iraq, and immediately the Iran-Iraq war, the Iranian building of Hezbollah in Lebanon, and in 2012-on the Iranian support for Assad in Syria against dominant Sunni majority, with the aid of it’s Hezabollah militias. From that, in Syria, you got the Sunni fundamentalist side against Assad.

Local issues plus powerful religiously divided interests across the region all trying to carve out some dominant position for themselves either as dictators, or in opposition to them.