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State Department 'concerned' about situation in Libya as conflict escalates
The Hill ^ | 12/21/19 03:44 PM EST | By Rachel Frazin -

Posted on 12/22/2019 9:37:26 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: Grampa Dave

I just think it was the Leftists. Soros, Clinton, McCain, Graham, and I think Rubio all championed this “excellent” idea.

They thought they would be the heroes who got rid of Khadaffi. Trouble is, Khadaffi had moderated, he wasn’t causing problems for the West, and his nation was stable.

He wasn’t going out of his way to be mean to his citizens either.

In walks these creatures of ignorance, and now look what we have.

Look the MIC could have pushed McCain no doubt, but I think the others were just too ignorant to turn Hillary and McCain down.

Soros had been funding the Muslim Brotherhood, and it was at his instigation this took place.


61 posted on 12/22/2019 12:42:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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To: Grampa Dave

On more thing. Soros had funded the overthrow of the leadership in Tunisia before moving on to Libya.

This is why I reference him as running his own foreign policy, which is a clear egregious example of a violation of the Logan Act, IMO.

He should be prosecuted for it, among a lot of other things.


62 posted on 12/22/2019 12:48:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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To: BenLurkin

Let France or Italy deal with it. They’re the countries most directly affected with “refugees.” We already fought the shores of Tripoli aka Leathernecks, already saw our people murdered needlessly in Benghazi.

BTW Libya is North Africa, not the ME.


63 posted on 12/22/2019 1:11:57 PM PST by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: BenLurkin

A U.S. official told Reuters that the presence of the Russian forces is “creating a bloodier conflict.”

Even bloodier than when we were there? Is this a contest?


64 posted on 12/22/2019 1:19:17 PM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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To: Jim Noble

“We can’t stabilize BALTIMORE and people here are going on about stabilizing AFRICA.“

Not very good at defending ourselves from foreign invasion, either.


65 posted on 12/22/2019 1:21:10 PM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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To: BenLurkin

Obama and Clinton are like herpes. Their effects just keep popping up without warning.


66 posted on 12/22/2019 1:22:40 PM PST by PGR88
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To: BenLurkin

Winston has done an excellent job of removing this craptacular failure of State Deptartment policy from all discourse, web pages, tablets, and obelisks.


67 posted on 12/22/2019 1:26:29 PM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Seriously...who cares. When politicians, upper level fed employees and the extremely wealthy send their children to be maimed, to be psychologically screwed-up or to die...give a call.


68 posted on 12/22/2019 2:22:31 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks for the great and thorough feed back on our elect left wingers and Libya.


69 posted on 12/22/2019 3:58:43 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inherited it, that way!")
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To: BenLurkin

Hilarious Caesar: I came, I saw, I Coughed!


70 posted on 12/22/2019 4:34:11 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: qaz123

70,000 employees gives them quite a standing Army. All that ammunition they purchased during the Obama administration should serve them well!


71 posted on 12/22/2019 4:38:24 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Grampa Dave

Tbank you Grampa Dave.

I repeat stuff I’ve learned over time, not intending to preach to you, but I want others to be aware of it.

Some lurkers here probably hear animosity toward Soros, but don’t know the foundation for it.

Take care. Hope our having a great season, and Merry Christmas.


72 posted on 12/22/2019 4:40:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Pledge: "...and to the Democracy for which it stands..." I give up. Use the democRat meme...)
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To: PIF

If the whole Arab Spring fiasco, Egypt and Syria ring any bells one might guess if one side is supported by US and Turkey and another by Russia, Egypt and UAE you automatically know who are the bad guys.
Egypt has really dodged the bullet when it managed so rebel and overthrow that Muzzie Brotherhood freak Hitlery installed to reign over them.
Pompeo better shut up. I believe Trump promised to finish with screwing around in Africa and Middle East but as we see it is more like an escalation so far.
If they see the threat to US influence in Russian forces coming to help out the good or at least the least bad guys that is basically confusing between causes and consequences.
US influence is primarily getting destroyed by backing the bad guys for vested interests of certain people in US government.


73 posted on 12/22/2019 7:51:52 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: Jim Noble

In fact it is a sort of US concern because if not for Hillary there wouldn’t be any troubles to start with.
But when it comes to solutions Egypt is in Africa and UAE is in close proximity. Africa is a sort of their business, not Turkish or American business. And if they want Australia, Antarctica, Mexico, Iceland or Russia for allies it is their business as well. Given US and Turkish record over a last decade they sure don’t want any American ‘help’ whatsoever. Everybody remember McCain chilling out with ISIS and Al-Qaeda.


74 posted on 12/22/2019 8:37:21 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: BenLurkin

We need to sit this one out, let the cards play, and stop selling javelins like candy. Libya’s in another civil war that has now involved multiple countries against the GNA. The main player here is Haftar, who may still be a dual American citizen circa 1990.

Another problem is Lockheed’s javelins, sold to Qatar and others around May 2016. Another sale to UAE was approved this year by the State Dept. Some of the javalins sold to the UAE have been found in compounds of rebels supporting Haftar. And if troops have them, Russia has them. Another problem is Haftar’s blind eye to Salafists, although his credo is that of a mortal enemy of the muslim brotherhood. The US has allegedly flown air support for some of Haftar’s battles. And, Russia if firmly supporting Haftar. If we now support the GNA, we’re in yet another proxy war with Russia, and, risk damaging any relationship we have with the UAE, who also supports Haftar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalifa_Haftar
www.defenseworld.net/news/25078/Discovery_Of_US_made_Javelin_Missiles_In_Libya_To_Further_Affect_Arms_Sales_To_UAE
www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/qatar-javelin-guided-missiles


75 posted on 12/23/2019 2:07:08 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: BenLurkin

Knock yourselves out, go “stabilize” Libya. But, bring our 30 million+ and growing daily new neighbors and their kids because ya aint getting mine. Ever.


76 posted on 12/23/2019 7:55:50 AM PST by riri
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