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Study: Proposed Pittsburgh-Cleveland-Chicago hyperloop would be highly profitable
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | December 17, 2019 | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Posted on 12/20/2019 5:39:00 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Development of a proposed hyperloop transportation system linking Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Chicago would not only be a boon to communities along the travel corridors but also would be a strong business investment.

That’s the conclusion of a 157-page feasibility study released Monday in Cleveland by the Northeast Ohio Areawide Coordinating Agency and Hyperloop Transportation Technologies Inc., a California-based company developing the technology to move passengers and freight at more than 500 mph through low-pressure tubes. Consultant Transportation Economics and Management Systems performed the $1.3 million study of the proposed Great Lakes Hyperloop System.

For the first time, the study estimated the costs of building the high-speed alternative to transportation by regular rail service and aviation. It said the cost to build the entire system would be about $40 billion, but investors could expect an operating profit of $30 billion during its first 25 years of hauling passengers and freight.

“The financial and economic results are unprecedented, illustrating a strong case for the public-private partnership to continue working to bring hyperloop to the Great Lakes corridor,” the study said. “Hyperloop will spur the New Economy service industries of finance, software and logistics; thus understanding the needs of the commuter population are paramount to maintaining a responsive service along the corridor.”

Alexander Metcalf, president of the consulting firm, stressed at a news conference at the Great Lakes Science Center in Cleveland that the project would be a good business investment. The expectation is that any hyperloop project would be a public-private partnership, with the public providing rights of way and stations and private investment paying capital costs for the tubes and technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Indiana; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: chicago; cleveland; construction; costs; eis; fares; feasibility; freight; funding; greatlakeshyperloop; hyperloop; illinois; indiana; infrastructure; investors; localnews; ohio; p3; passengers; pennsylvania; pittsburgh; ppp; profits; proposal; study; timeline; transportation
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

LMAO!


41 posted on 12/20/2019 6:46:20 PM PST by indthkr
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
...a 157-page feasibility study released Monday in Cleveland by the Northeast Ohio Areawide Coordinating Agency and Hyperloop Transportation Technologies Inc.
"Hyperloop" IS the Elon Musk concept.

Although the concept of the Hyperloop was popularized by Elon Musk, he is not affiliated with HTT. They are totally separate companies, and Musk has nothing to do with HTT Inc. HTT has a different methodology of building the hyperloop and it is going to be an expensive boondoggle.

42 posted on 12/20/2019 7:02:40 PM PST by roadcat
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To: DoughtyOne
Don’t worry, you can always steal gas tax dollars to help pay for it, then create toll booths to make the middle-class suckers pay for it all over again.

Ah, just like the Dulles Toll Road's (Virginia) helping to fund Metrorail's silver line with toll increases.

43 posted on 12/20/2019 7:03:37 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Somewhat less than 10% of equity was given to early employees, and over 90% to Elon Musk.

Which is fair, considering that Musk poured all his fortune into SpaceX and Tesla to keep them afloat (dividing all his money between the two companies). The Boring Company uses technology from all the companies Musk runs, and those companies stand to profit greatly from The Boring Company. Estimates have been given that The Boring Company will be worth far more than Tesla and SpaceX in the near future.

44 posted on 12/20/2019 7:08:36 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Since rush hour is different in CA, we could have CA loan their fantastic high sppeed rail to the Rust Belt while CA is still asleep. People in CA will never know its gone.


45 posted on 12/20/2019 7:26:39 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: DoughtyOne; Gay State Conservative
The Defense presents Exhibit #1: Bostn's Big Dig:



46 posted on 12/20/2019 7:27:05 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What could possibly go wrong? Ask California.


47 posted on 12/20/2019 7:29:08 PM PST by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: DoodleBob

This IS CA.s bullet train!!!


48 posted on 12/20/2019 7:29:19 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

you know what , if they’re going to build this thing with private financing I say more power to them. It either works or fails depending on what the public wants. But I don’t want any of my tax money spent on this thing.


49 posted on 12/20/2019 7:43:48 PM PST by technically right
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That’s “Highly profitable?” I think not.


50 posted on 12/20/2019 7:55:18 PM PST by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

$40 billion, huh ? Betcha it would cost closer to $500-750 billion by the time the real costs figured in (payoffs to the usual suspects).


51 posted on 12/20/2019 8:23:55 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t think this is great. But I’d bet some said the same thing about the road program, building various bridges over the years and other stuff.


52 posted on 12/20/2019 8:30:01 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is only OK is Federal, state, and local governments not fund one cent or guarantee anything. Either Taggart Transcontinental or nothing. The Feds can't afford subsidizing it, nor the states along the path, particularly Illinois and New York.
53 posted on 12/20/2019 8:34:06 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: roadcat

Thanks. I did not know about HTT Inc. I didn’t realize another company was formed to commercialize Hyperloop and they have no connection to Musk.


54 posted on 12/20/2019 8:57:14 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: roadcat
Estimates have been given that The Boring Company will be worth far more than Tesla and SpaceX in the near future.

Wow...hadn't heard that. It's really amazing how he can enter a rather mature market and develop innovations. I was reading the history of his first three TBMs on Wiki. The first was a stock purchased unit; the second was a modified commercial machine; the third is almost all-new from the ground up by his engineering and development team.

55 posted on 12/20/2019 8:59:10 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Count me as one of the many who were highly skeptical of Elon Musk. Until I read up on him and viewed his interviews. Despite his quirks, credit must be given him for thinking outside the box and pushing technology along. He might fail, his companies might fail, but he has prodded others into building better technology.

As for that proposed new hyperloop, it really isn't ready for primetime and will be an expensive boondoggle. Maybe in five years, when Musk has perfected his proof-of-concept tunnels and TBMs.

56 posted on 12/20/2019 9:17:46 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here’s a little bit of reality. Rail time between Chicago and Cleveland is about 7 hours. Freight schedules are 3-7 DAYS, due to loading, switching, scheduling, and unloading. It sound like cutting the transit time by 80% won’t actually cut the freight shipping time by much.


57 posted on 12/20/2019 9:54:34 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Great, if it’s supposed to be so highly profitable they won’t need one red cent of taxpayer money......right? I’ll believe this fairy tale when the project is 100% privately funded with a contract requirement prohibits and city/state/federal funding.


58 posted on 12/20/2019 10:29:23 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: DoodleBob
"Big Dig's red ink engulfs state"

Boy,do we remember "The Big Dig" here in Massachusetts! While this fiasco was unfolding Barney Fag (sorry:Barney Frank) was the Congresscreature representing that part of the state. While commenting once on the project...critising it in fact...he made the only statement that I've ever agreed with.

He said: "It would be cheaper to raise the city than it would be to lower the Expressway".

The "city" being Boston,the "Expressway" being The Southeast Expressway,a major artery through Boston.

59 posted on 12/21/2019 3:58:44 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That is exactly what he is doing. He has tunnel boring and transportation projects either planned, in discussion or underway in Los Angeles (Hawthorne, the westside LA area, and the "Dugout Loop" to the LA Dodgers stadium), Baltimore - Washington, Chicago (O'Hare), Las Vegas, San Jose and China.

Great. When some of those projects are completed, operational and proven safe, then get back to us. The Baltimore-Washington loop sounds particularly promising. Oh, wait. Aren't those cities supposed to be under water in 20 years?

60 posted on 12/21/2019 5:30:04 AM PST by OrangeHoof (The Democrats - Unafraid to burn in Hell.)
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