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Elon’s Achilles
Townhall.com ^ | December 15, 2019 | Gil Gutknecht

Posted on 12/15/2019 5:25:39 AM PST by Kaslin

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> Democrats dream of powering society entirely with wind and solar farms combined with massive batteries. Realizing this dream would require the biggest expansion in mining the world has yet seen, and would produce huge quantities of waste.
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> “Renewable energy” is a misnomer. Wind and solar machines and batteries are built from nonrenewable materials. And they wear out. Old equipment must be decommissioned, generating millions of tons of waste. The International Renewable Energy Agency calculates that solar goals for 2050, consistent with the Paris Accords, will result in old-panel disposal constituting more than double the tonnage of all today’s global plastic waste. Consider some other sobering numbers:
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> A single electric-car battery weighs about 1,000 pounds. Fabricating one requires digging up, moving and processing more than 500,000 pounds of raw materials somewhere on the planet. The alternative? Use gasoline and extract one-tenth as much total tonnage to deliver the same number of vehicle-miles over the battery’s seven-year life.
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> When electricity comes from wind or solar machines, every unit of energy produced, or mile traveled, requires far more materials and land than fossil fuels. That physical reality is literally visible: A wind or solar farm stretching to the horizon can be replaced by a handful of gas-fired turbines, each no bigger than a tractor-trailer.
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> Building one wind turbine requires 900 tons of steel, 2,500 tons of concrete and 45 tons of nonrecyclable plastic. Solar power requires even more cement, steel and glass—not to mention other metals. Global silver and indium mining will jump 250% and 1,200% respectively over the next couple of decades to provide the materials necessary to build the number of solar panels, the International Energy Agency forecasts. World demand for rare-earth elements—which aren’t rare but are rarely mined in America—will rise 300% to 1,000% by 2050 to meet the Paris green goals. If electric vehicles replace conventional cars, demand for cobalt and lithium, will rise more than 20-fold. That doesn’t count batteries to back up wind and solar grids.
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> Last year a Dutch government-sponsored study concluded that the Netherlands’ green ambitions alone would consume a major share of global minerals. “Exponential growth in [global] renewable energy production capacity is not possible with present-day technologies and annual metal production,” it concluded.
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> The demand for minerals likely won’t be met by mines in Europe or the U.S. Instead, much of the mining will take place in nations with oppressive labor practices. The Democratic Republic of the Congo produces 70% of the world’s raw cobalt, and China controls 90% of cobalt refining. The Sydney-based Institute for a Sustainable Future cautions that a global “gold” rush for minerals could take miners into “some remote wilderness areas [that] have maintained high biodiversity because they haven’t yet been disturbed.”
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> What’s more, mining and fabrication require the consumption of hydrocarbons. Building enough wind turbines to supply half the world’s electricity would require nearly two billion tons of coal to produce the concrete and steel, along with two billion barrels of oil to make the composite blades. More than 90% of the world’s solar panels are built in Asia on coal-heavy electric grids.
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> Engineers joke about discovering “unobtanium,” a magical energy-producing element that appears out of nowhere, requires no land, weighs nothing, and emits nothing. Absent the realization of that impossible dream, hydrocarbons remain a far better alternative than today’s green dreams.
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> Mr. Mills is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a partner in Cottonwood Venture Partners, an energy-tech venture fund, and author of the recent report, “The ‘New Energy Economy’: An Exercise in Magical Thinking.”
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> Inconvenient Energy Realities
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> The math behind “ The New Energy Economy: An Exercise in Magical Thinking ”
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> A week doesn’t pass without a mayor, governor, policymaker or pundit joining the rush to demand, or predict, an energy future that is entirely based on wind/solar and batteries, freed from the “burden” of the hydrocarbons that have fueled societies for centuries. Regardless of one’s opinion about whether, or why, an energy “transformation” is called for, the physics and economics of energy combined with scale realities make it clear that there is no possibility of anything resembling a radically “new energy economy” in the foreseeable future. Bill Gates has said that when it comes to understanding energy realities “we need to bring math to the problem.”
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> He’s right. So, in my recent Manhattan Institute report, “The New Energy Economy: An Exercise in Magical Thinking,” I did just that.
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> Herein, then, is a summary of some of bottom-line realities from the underlying math. (See the full report for explanations, documentation and citations.)
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> Realities About the Scale of Energy Demand
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> 1. Hydrocarbons supply over 80% of world energy: If all that were in the form of oil, the barrels would line up from Washington, D.C., to Los Angeles, and that entire line would grow by the height of the Washington Monument every week.
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> 2. The small two percentage-point decline in the hydrocarbon share of world energy use entailed over $2 trillion in cumulative global spending on alternatives over that period; solar and wind today supply less than 2% of the global energy.
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> 3. When the world’s four billion poor people increase energy use to just one-third of Europe’s per capita level, global demand rises by an amount equal to twice America’s total consumption.
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> 4. A 100x growth in the number of electric vehicles to 400 million on the roads by 2040 would displace 5% of global oil demand.
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> 5. Renewable energy would have to expand 90-fold to replace global hydrocarbons in two decades. It took a half-century for global petroleum production to expand “only” 10-fold.
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> 6. Replacing U.S. hydrocarbon-based electric generation over the next 30 years would require a construction program building out the grid at a rate 14-fold greater than any time in history.
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> 7. Eliminating hydrocarbons to make U.S. electricity (impossible soon, infeasible for decades) would leave untouched 70% of U.S. hydrocarbons use—America uses 16% of world energy.
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> 8. Efficiency increases energy demand by making products & services cheaper: since 1990, global energy efficiency improved 33%, the economy grew 80% and global energy use is up 40%.
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> 9. Efficiency increases energy demand: Since 1995, aviation fuel use/passenger-mile is down 70%, air traffic rose more than 10-fold, and global aviation fuel use rose over 50%.
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> 10. Efficiency increases energy demand: since 1995, energy used per byte is down about 10,000-fold, but global data traffic rose about a million-fold; global electricity used for computing soared.
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> 11. Since 1995, total world energy use rose by 50%, an amount equal to adding two entire United States’ worth of demand.
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> 12. For security and reliability, an average of two months of national demand for hydrocarbons are in storage at any time. Today, barely two hours of national electricity demand can be stored in all utility-scale batteries plus all batteries in one million electric cars in America.
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> 13. Batteries produced annually by the Tesla Gigafactory (world’s biggest battery factory) can store three minutes worth of annual U.S. electric demand.
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> 14. To make enough batteries to store two-day’s worth of U.S. electricity demand would require 1,000 years of production by the Gigafactory (world’s biggest battery factory).
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> 15. Every $1 billion in aircraft produced leads to some $5 billion in aviation fuel consumed over two decades to operate them. Global spending on new jets is more than $50 billion a year—and rising.
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> 16. Every $1 billion spent on datacenters leads to $7 billion in electricity consumed over two decades. Global spending on datacenters is more than $100 billion a year—and rising.
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> Realities About Energy Economics
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> 17. Over a 30-year period, $1 million worth of utility-scale solar or wind produces 40 million and 55 million kWh respectively: $1 million worth of shale well produces enough natural gas to generate 300 million kWh over 30 years.
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> 18. It costs about the same to build one shale well or two wind turbines: the latter, combined, produces 0.7 barrels of oil (equivalent energy) per hour , the shale rig averages 10 barrels of oil per hour.
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> 19. It costs less than $0.50 to store a barrel of oil, or its equivalent in natural gas, but it costs $200 to store the equivalent energy of a barrel of oil in batteries.
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> 20. Cost models for wind and solar assume, respectively, 41% and 29% capacity factors (i.e., how often they produce electricity). Real-world data reveal as much as 10 percentage points less for both. That translates into $3 million less energy produced than assumed over a 20-year life of a 2-MW $3 million wind turbine.
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> 21. In order to compensate for episodic wind/solar output, U.S. utilities are using oil- and gas-burning reciprocating engines (big cruise-ship-like diesels); three times as many have been added to the grid since 2000 as in the 50 years prior to that.
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> 22. Wind-farm capacity factors have improving at about 0.7% per year; this small gain comes mainly from reducing the number of turbines per acre leading to 50% increase in average land used to produce a wind-kilowatt-hour.
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> 23. Over 90% of America’s electricity, and 99% of the power used in transportation, comes from sources that can easily supply energy to the economy any time the market demands it.
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> 24. Wind and solar machines produce energy an average of 25%–30% of the time, and only when nature permits. Conventional power plants can operate nearly continuously and are available when needed.
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> 25. The shale revolution collapsed the prices of natural gas & coal, the two fuels that produce 70% of U.S. electricity. But electric rates haven’t gone down, rising instead 20% since 2008. Direct and indirect subsidies for solar and wind consumed those savings.
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> Energy Physics… Inconvenient Realities
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> 26. Politicians and pundits like to invoke “moonshot” language. But transforming the energy economy is not like putting a few people on the moon a few times. It is like putting all of humanity on the moon—permanently.
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> 27. The common cliché: an energy tech disruption will echo the digital tech disruption. But information-producing machines and energy-producing machines involve profoundly different physics; the cliché is sillier than comparing apples to bowling balls.
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> 28. If solar power scaled like computer-tech, a single postage-stamp-size solar array would power the Empire State Building. That only happens in comic books.
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> 29. If batteries scaled like digital tech, a battery the size of a book, costing three cents, could power a jetliner to Asia. That only happens in comic books.
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> 30. If combustion engines scaled like computers, a car engine would shrink to the size of an ant and produce a thousand-fold more horsepower; actual ant-sized engines produce 100,000 times less power.
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> 31. No digital-like 10x gains exist for solar tech. Physics limit for solar cells (the Shockley-Queisser limit) is a max conversion of about 33% of photons into electrons; commercial cells today are at 26%.
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> 32. No digital-like 10x gains exist for wind tech. Physics limit for wind turbines (the Betz limit) is a max capture of 60% of energy in moving air; commercial turbines achieve 45%.
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> 33. No digital-like 10x gains exist for batteries: maximum theoretical energy in a pound of oil is 1,500% greater than max theoretical energy in the best pound of battery chemicals.
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> 34. About 60 pounds of batteries are needed to store the energy equivalent of one pound of hydrocarbons.
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> 35. At least 100 pounds of materials are mined, moved and processed for every pound of battery fabricated.
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> 36. Storing the energy equivalent of one barrel of oil, which weighs 300 pounds, requires 20,000 pounds of Tesla batteries ($200,000 worth).
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> 37. Carrying the energy equivalent of the aviation fuel used by an aircraft flying to Asia would require $60 million worth of Tesla-type batteries weighing five times more than that aircraft.
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> 38. It takes the energy-equivalent of 100 barrels of oil to fabricate a quantity of batteries that can store the energy equivalent of a single barrel of oil.
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> 39. A battery-centric grid and car world means mining gigatons more of the earth to access lithium, copper, nickel, graphite, rare earths, cobalt, etc.—and using millions of tons of oil and coal both in mining and to fabricate metals and concrete.
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> 40. China dominates global battery production with its grid 70% coal-fueled: EVs using Chinese batteries will create more carbon-dioxide than saved by replacing oil-burning engines.
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> 41. One would no more use helicopters for regular trans-Atlantic travel—doable with elaborately expensive logistics—than employ a nuclear reactor to power a train or photovoltaic systems to power a nation.
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> Mark P. Mills is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a McCormick School of Engineering Faculty Fellow at Northwestern University, and author of Work in the Age of Robots, published by Encounter Books.
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61 posted on 12/15/2019 11:17:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: crosdaddy
The Volkswagen Group is a huge proponent of EV vehicles...

I would be too; if the gummints keeps giving out these large subsidies!

62 posted on 12/15/2019 11:23:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It costs me about E$15 to fill up my propane tanks at TSC. They check to see if the tank is still useable. If past the date; they won’t fill it.

I then take the tank to Walmart; where I exchange it for a filled(?) one for about $20.

Beats having to buy a NEW tank for around 30 bucks and having to dispose of the old one.


63 posted on 12/15/2019 11:28:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ex gun maker.

Pressurized air!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed-air_vehicle


64 posted on 12/15/2019 11:31:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Well..... The Government has been giving the Volkswagen Group something, but its not subsidies, LOL. Would you settle for 10’s (that’s plural) of billions of $’s in fines.


65 posted on 12/15/2019 11:39:26 AM PST by crosdaddy (Arl)
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To: Elsie

“Can you imagine the vast amount of storage area required for all of those recharging batteries”

Massive fire Hazzard too (as long as they are current Lithium-designs). Lithium flack batteries were responsible for that dive boat fire off Santa Barbara earlier this year. Imagine a warehouse full of those going up?


66 posted on 12/15/2019 11:40:25 AM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Kaslin; All
Ya Ya Ya Gil...

"But, electric vehicles have an Achilles Heel: the battery."

So why aren't you interviewing the 20 to 30 leading edge Solid State Battery start ups that have literally billions thrown at them (Quantum Scape, Solid Power, Solid Energy, Prieto etc etc ) that will give us 2 to 3X where we are now for range but more importantly charge times, Range anxiety is over you can go 200 to 300 miles no problem, IMHO the next beach-head is charging times. I am waiting for someone to make a bold move in that direction, I don't know who or when or what R & D is going on, however if I can envision that, my guess is there is a ton of work being done in that arena....

"Tesla’s rechargeable batteries rely on rare earth minerals."

Ya and look at one of the latest issues of "NorthernMiningNews" and see how much of the State of Alaska is full of them, I am shocked. It is now coming into play why Sen Murkowski is sitting on a Litium Ion Supply Chain and Nuclear Power Group/Sub Comittee's in the Senate, Alaska will reap the whirlwind. Also, if we get a deal with North Korea, they can be a 2nd source, since they have an estimated 6 to 10 Trillion dollars worth of them.

"They are expensive (around $7,000 installed) and take considerable time to recharge."

Again Charge times right now are everything IMHO.

"Like the batteries in your phone, as they get older or very cold (think Minnesota) they don’t hold a charge as well."

One of my gnomes went to a rubber chicken diner where one of the grand dames of the auto press was talking about his subject about 3 yrs ago. The industry was shocked that the batteries were lasting 4x greater than they thought and the price driver downward was driven by Elon. Holding the charge is another subject, tight to the vest stuff, it has to do with how you are charging it.....

I am here in S.E. Michigan, any engineer worth their salt is really geeked about what they can do w/ electric. 2wd to 4wd is adding another motor/gear reduction unit and shafts, wire it up for regen / power etc and the battery packs forming a "Skateboard" for central mass and a low CG and packaging has me hearing from one of my gnomes saying basically "oh ***k it" let's throw the existing drive train out and do this it is so much freaking easier...

The EV Revolution IMHO is real, it will happen in the tail-end of PDJT's 2nd term, and the ramifications possibly to finanical markets ( Not investment advice ) could be mindboggling, there are those predicting it will out do the Clintn Boom Years...

BTW Gil, the Mach-E Mustang's 1st yr production run of 50,000 units, is sold out....

FWIW: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3795488/posts?page=136#129

67 posted on 12/15/2019 11:51:27 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!"lk)
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To: Tallguy
Agree but the manufacturers are moving away from hybrids and going all-electric. Hybrids are more expensive to make and they are lugging even more weight around than the battery-powered cars.

Hybrids cost less when it comes to 'fuel', and they can go a lot farther without having to refuel/recharge. Advantage(s): hybrids.
68 posted on 12/15/2019 4:10:56 PM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

No question about it.


69 posted on 12/15/2019 4:55:22 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Kaslin

1. Elon Musk did not found Tesla. He acquired a leading position to protect his financial investment.

2. Graphene is a two, not three dimensional material. The properties of graphene apply to a sample with a particular arrangement of connections, which allow the remainder of the material to float in isolation. Search ballistic electrons in the context of graphene.


70 posted on 12/15/2019 8:09:10 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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