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Reagan’s forgotten Iran-Contra escape may reveal more about Trump’s fate than Watergate | Will Bunch
inquirer ^ | 12/03/2019 | Will bunch

Posted on 12/04/2019 7:21:25 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

When the scandal finally broke, it was on the other side of the Atlantic, in a nation that millions of Americans couldn’t pinpoint on a map. Congress had made its intentions clear in the form of legislation, but the White House secretly ignored that to illegally pursue its own controversial agenda. Meanwhile, it was revealed that shady foreign-born middlemen were pocketing millions of dollars. The president’s approval rating plummeted, and it looked like an early exit.

“I had hoped there would not be discovery of an impeachable offense,” the Speaker of the House said at one point. “I didn’t want to focus on such a divisive subject.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2020election; djibouti; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; eritrea; hassannasrallah; hezbollah; iran; irancontra; lebanon; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; reagan; smearmachine; sudan; trump; watergate; yemen

1 posted on 12/04/2019 7:21:25 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

These idiots are so desperate to bring down Trump they dig up Reagan and Nixon. Its so pathetic.


2 posted on 12/04/2019 7:22:01 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Congress had made its intentions clear in the form of legislation, but the White House secretly ignored that to illegally pursue its own controversial agenda.

This item is factually incorrect.

The Boland Amendment applied to U.S. intelligence agencies that received appropriations through Congress. The Reagan administration set up the Iran-Contra affair as a National Security Council operation specifically because it was NOT covered under the Boland Amendment. In fact, the Boland Amendment was drafted in the first place because Congress would not approve a total, comprehensive ban on funding the Contras in Nicaragua.

Interestingly, there were serious questions about the constitutionality of the Boland Amendment at the time -- but they were never subject to court challenges because nobody was ever prosecuted for violating it. Congress explicitly made violations of this legislation a civil matter, not a criminal one.

3 posted on 12/04/2019 7:28:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The CIA tried to take out Reagan on Iran Contra.
The Deep State has been working against the GOP since before Nixon.


4 posted on 12/04/2019 7:31:11 AM PST by Zathras
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To: ChicagoConservative27

In their reckless haste to out DJT they uncovered corruption all right, it was just their own corruption.


5 posted on 12/04/2019 7:37:46 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

That’s true but that rag has few readers. They’re not going to influence anybody.


6 posted on 12/04/2019 7:41:57 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

No bias in that article. No siree


7 posted on 12/04/2019 7:42:08 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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Posted on 12/04/2019 7:45:22 AM PST by knighthawk
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8 posted on 12/04/2019 8:06:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Partisan Media Shills update.


9 posted on 12/04/2019 8:06:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Alberta's Child

After spending about 10 years off and on in the Reagan Papers to write “Reagan: The American President,” I can say that there was NO evidence whatsoever that Reagan knew about North’s diversion of funds.

North later lied about this. It is a shame so many conservatives still stand by someone who called Reagan a liar on multiple occasions.

Reagan was NOT sufficiently engaged in the oversight of the weapons transfers to Iran; and he WAS engaged in a lot of self-delusion that the exchanges were anything other than “weapons for hostages.” Still, that was not illegal-—it just circumvented his own policy. Reagan got too close to the hostages as individual people, and it ate at him. But he did nothing illegal, at any point. Certainly nothing “impeachable,” despite what that tool Lawrence Walsh-—who pursued Reagan after he left office-—said.


10 posted on 12/04/2019 8:35:34 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Didn't this guy's brother used to have a TV show?

Brady Bunch.

11 posted on 12/04/2019 8:56:22 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Alberta's Child
Congress explicitly made violations of this legislation a civil matter, not a criminal one.

Yeah, when I read the article, I said to myself, "hey wait a minute, there's something wrong here", remembering the point about the Boland Amendment. Explicitly defined by Congress as a civil matter == not a crime or misdemeanor. It was conspiracy to defraud that North was convicted for, and it was reversed on appeal because the objective of the conspiracy wasn't a crime or misdemeanor. At least that's my recollection. So not a good parallel, and furthermore focusing on that now would tend to rehabilitate North and Reagan.

12 posted on 12/04/2019 9:03:25 AM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I have no doubt Reagan was behind funding the Contras, and I applaud him for doing so. The Democrats at that time were trying to fund and acting as the propaganda machine for the communist Sandinistas.


13 posted on 12/04/2019 11:19:12 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

You will never see any one with influence over the masses, or school lessons (K-12 or College), talk about the way Democrats since the 60’s have been using taxpayers money to support Communist Radicals the World over.

Check out the history books that should cover the truth of Ted Kennedy.

But how dare we actually defend the countries we have agreements with, or allow any President to bring down any Communist radicle intent on attacking the US anywhere in the World.


14 posted on 12/05/2019 7:57:29 AM PST by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

I know I really detest communists. I can’t believe Fuchs and others got off easy after giving them the a-bomb. I can’t even watch movies that show the Russians as the heroes fighting against the NAZIS. I always root for the NAZIS.


15 posted on 12/05/2019 1:52:47 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Agreed, though to be fair, Fuch’s data may have hampered Soviet attempts at creating the a-bomb based on what some Soviet scientists as well as Beria stated (though that would probably be more due to incompetence on Fuch’s part than intentional sabotage).

I’d personally consider Oppenheimer FAR more damaging than Fuchs, due to him literally photocopying the designs, and right now, he’s deemed a model scientist.


16 posted on 01/08/2020 3:28:23 AM PST by otness_e
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To: OneVike

What’s even more sad is that Ted Kennedy’s brother, JFK, is probably the only one of the Kennedy brothers who actually ATTEMPTED to fight off Communism (Robert Kennedy’s in the gray area).


17 posted on 01/08/2020 3:30:04 AM PST by otness_e
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