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Destroying the environment, slicing birds, annihilating bats......all to combat climate change.
1 posted on 11/16/2019 3:27:03 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

The climate change cult is insane... then again what they do to forests is a drop in the buckets compared to their plans for us.

Its never really been about the climate. Its about power.


2 posted on 11/16/2019 3:32:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Goodness gracious. EVERYTHING about the wind industry is bad for the environment. From the wasteful strip mining for rare Earth minerals to the smelting of the steel to the trucking of the components to the chopping of the birds to the blight on the landscape. And then, they never produce the energy it took to manufacture, transport and maintain themselves


3 posted on 11/16/2019 3:37:55 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Erik Latranyi

There is a wind turbine design that was used in Spain where the turbine sits horizontally in side of a tower and the wind comes in through openings in the tower and drives the turbine. It is considered much safer for animals, it is sheltered out of the elements. It is considered to be 25 per cent less efficient and a little more costly than an exposed vertical wind machine but id the wind is free the 25 per cent less efficiency will be more than made up for. The tower with internalized turbine is also quieter.

If you are going to have wind turbine power, that is the way to do it!


4 posted on 11/16/2019 3:40:40 AM PST by mdmathis6
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There is a kind of irony in the fact that environmentalists have turned out to be the wind industry’s nemesis, given that the entire subsidy-soaked scam once traded on its ‘holier than thou’ environmental credentials.

Now that you put it that way, I'm leaning towards the wind industry.

5 posted on 11/16/2019 3:42:22 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Shouldn’t this be in Breaking Wind News?


6 posted on 11/16/2019 3:44:26 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Something, something petard, something, something hoist.


7 posted on 11/16/2019 3:51:48 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Agenda 21 says they have to move to the city anyway so the noise won't be an issue.
8 posted on 11/16/2019 4:05:13 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways to Sunday)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If wind energy was so great and safe the turbines would be located in the cities high above the billboards so urban dwellers can hum along to the tune as they enjoy the intermittant electricity.


9 posted on 11/16/2019 4:10:07 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Cause and effect...


16 posted on 11/16/2019 5:01:35 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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“...all to combat climate change.”

When I was in college, the Soviets were funding US Leftist groups to attack us from 2 angles: They paid for the anti-war (and anti-military) movement, obviously, and they also paid for the ‘environmental’ movement (all documented in the Venona Papers). To their surprise, and I’m sure delight (and probably shock), they got themselves a whole army of professors and media types to actually believe their garbage.

At the time, the prime goal of the Soviets was to obtain political, or at least psychological, control over Western Europe, and the best way to do that was to arm-up, and the point out to the Western Europeans that the US wouldn’t match them (and therefore likely wouldn’t not protect them either), so it was time to start cutting deals, starting with a huge natural gas pipeline. Then Reagan came along and that strategy quickly failed. The ‘environment’ was a longer-term play, intended to weaken our side economically.

So then, starting exactly on Earth Day, 1990, just as the Cold War was about over, all we heard was that the Earth was going to hell...and it’s still all we hear. “Climate change” is simply a cover, for if combating that was the REAL GOAL, you would be hearing a much different approach from them, starting with the following:

1) Demanding nuclear power plants be built and a huge push for fusion.
2) Demanding that hydroelectric plants be built and high voltage wires strung everywhere
3) Demanding that we look at shading options for the sun (in Earth orbit, or upper atmosphere), which are very compared to what’s being spent on the ground
4) Demanding real population control and reduction in the Third World, where the largest gains, by far, in carbon emissions are taking place as they modernize
5) Demanding a sharp reduction in the giant countries of China and India, and willing to use any means to accomplish that end.
6) Be will to accept technologies which permanently lock up carbon, and already exist

But they are NOT pushing any of the above. Therefore it’s only reasonable to conclude that their goals lie elsewhere. And given their history and what they despise (i.e., Western culture), it’s not hard to figure out what their ultimate goal here is, when they say ‘combat climate change’.

So, it’s probably best to stop taking them at their word and looking more at their actions.


20 posted on 11/16/2019 5:21:42 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't don't tell anyone.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
This is the dirty secret nobody wants to talk about with wind energy.

wind farms tear up the environment and destroy ecosystems because the site work is extremely expensive and the turbine don't produce enough revenue to develop the sites, install foundations and turbines and the. remediate the areas back to pristine condition.

Roads are rough graded onto hills and mountains in high density patterns and left unpaved and minimally improved which causes eroision and alters natural drainage patterns

With the large multi megawatt generators , huge and very heavy components must be lifted by even huger and heavier cranes which tear up the environment

Power lines are either strung out or dug into the ground, which tears up the surrounding earth from digging and running heavy equipment over the site
Spare parts and site heavy equipment are stored in open air lots

As a result, most wind farms look more like a World War battlefield such as the break out from Anzio in Italy than some green utopia in the publicly photos

Really love wind turbines as they are awesome pieces of machinery and engineering. They are an indispensable way to quickly install inexpensive ( relatively) power to remote areas with good wind resources but lacking in preexisting power distribution infrastructure, especially third world countries

But they are not environmentally friendly nor are they green

Shutting down perfectly good utility grade power plants to replace them wind turbines is one of the most environmentally destructive and economically irresponsible actions any government can do.

As Germany has learned, wind turbines are fundamentally incapable of producing reliable, utility grade power.

And the environmental impact is highly negative and far from the green utopia the disconnected armchair environmentalists living in filth in their San Francisco high rise apartments or Malibu private jet set celebs think it is.

25 posted on 11/16/2019 5:46:12 AM PST by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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To: Erik Latranyi

And we used to complain about cell towers defacing the countryside....


26 posted on 11/16/2019 5:51:30 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Erik Latranyi

I HATE wind farms. Inefficient, destructive and butt ugly.


27 posted on 11/16/2019 6:03:54 AM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Erik Latranyi

So, how much carbon would those forrests have sucked up, that won’t any more?


32 posted on 11/16/2019 6:42:03 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Erik Latranyi

yep , Merkel is a Russian Spy


34 posted on 11/16/2019 6:46:00 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Erik Latranyi

Each turbine must have a House sized concrete and steel footing to keep it in place . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2o5P-6zm6Y


35 posted on 11/16/2019 6:49:15 AM PST by butlerweave
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Well, they have to do that, lest tsunami’s and earthquakes destroy their nuclear power plants, none of which are built on shorelines and in earthquake prone areas as East German Communist born Merkle used as her reasoning for closing them.


45 posted on 11/16/2019 11:15:12 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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