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LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Hearing 15-Nov-2019. Former Ambassador Yovanovitch
Freerepublic ^ | 11/15/2019 | FR

Posted on 11/15/2019 4:34:53 AM PST by Textide

Live thread for today's round of the House Impeachment Hearing starring Marie "happy face" Yovanovitch.

C-SPAN 2 Link

Live YouTube PBS coverage

Link to Nov 13th thread on FR.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: braking; couppeachmenthearing; impeachment; impetuouscrybaby; livecouppeachment; trump; ukraine; yovanovitch
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1 posted on 11/15/2019 4:34:53 AM PST by Textide
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To: Textide

Scheduled to start at 9am ET.


2 posted on 11/15/2019 4:40:16 AM PST by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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Jordan needs to kick her ***. She's a triple threat (cackle). Hannity outlined some of her more egregious activities:
<><>She gave a list of people to Ukraine authorities of people NOT TO PROSECUTE.
<><> She involved herself in Ukraine’s politics; NEVER a part of an ambassador’s duties.
<><> She flaunts her political leanings, even marched in a parade that featured very political themes.
3 posted on 11/15/2019 4:42:06 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Textide

Is it just me or does that wench look like a Bond villainess...Rosa Klebb.


4 posted on 11/15/2019 4:45:13 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: Textide

The President of Ukraine speaks about her in the phone call. Zelensky says she was a fan of Poroshenko.


5 posted on 11/15/2019 4:49:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Textide

Thank you for starting this thread.

As on the first day of these hearings, I cannot bear watching this shamnesty - so will rely on all who have a stronger stomach than I do to relay what is going on.

I hope this person (I won’t call her a lady) is made to squirm by Jordan etc.


6 posted on 11/15/2019 4:52:22 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Textide

I’m here.

Ugh, it’s too early. Need my coffee!


7 posted on 11/15/2019 4:56:26 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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WIKI——As Obama’s hand-picked U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Yovanovitch was the target of a conspiracy-driven smear campaign.

Unfounded allegations against her were then made by Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, as well as conservative commentator John Solomon of The Hill and Ukraine’s then-top prosecutor, Yuri Lutsenko, who accused her of being part of a conspiracy involving anti-corruption probes in Ukraine and efforts by the Trump administration to investigate ties between Ukrainian officials and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Lutsenko, who has been accused by Ukrainian civil society organizations of corruption,[20] claimed that Yovanovitch, an Obama administration appointee, had interfered in Ukraine politics, had given him a “do-not-prosecute” list and was interfering in his ability to combat corruption in Ukraine.[22][19] The U.S. State Department said that Lutsenko’s allegations against Yovanovitch were “an outright fabrication”[22] and indicated that they were a “classic disinformation campaign.”[21]

Lutsenko subsequently recanted his claims of a “do-not-prosecute” list. Lutsenko’s unfounded allegation was nonetheless amplified by President Trump, his son Donald Trump Jr., Giuliani, Solomon, and conservative media outlets.[22][24] Ukrainians who opposed Yovanovitch were also sources for Giuliani, who “was on a months-long search for political dirt in Ukraine to help President Trump.”[20]

In May 2019, after complaints from Giuliani and other Trump allies that Yovanovitch was undermining and obstructing Trump’s efforts to persuade Ukraine to investigate former vice president and 2020 U.S. presidential election candidate Joe Biden, Trump ordered Yovanovitch’s recall.[25][26] In a July 25, 2019 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky (the contents of which became public in September 2019), Trump pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Biden and disparaged Yovanovitch to his foreign counterpart.[24][18]

Yovanovitch’s abrupt ouster shocked and outraged career State Department diplomats.[19][27] Acting Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Philip Reeker, the chief diplomat for U.S. policy for Europe, testified that he had urged top State Department officials David Hale and T. Ulrich Brechbuhl, to issue a statement expressing strong support for Yovanovitch, but that top State Department leadership rejected this proposal.[21] Former senior U.S. diplomats Philip Gordon and Daniel Fried, who served as assistant secretaries of state for European and Eurasian Affairs and as National Security Council staffers under presidents of both parties, praised Yovanovitch and condemned Trump’s “egregious mistreatment of one of the country’s most distinguished ambassadors,” writing that this had demoralized the U.S. diplomatic corps and undermined U.S. foreign policy.[28]

The American Foreign Service Association and American Academy of Diplomacy, representing members of the U.S. diplomatic corps, expressed alarm at Trump’s disparagement of Yovanovitch in his call with Zelensky.[29] Michael McKinley, a career foreign service officer who served as ambassador to four countries and had been chief adviser to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, resigned in October 2019 in protest of Trump’s attacks against Yovanovitch and “the State Department’s unwillingness to protect career diplomats from politically motivated pressure.”[30][31] Yovanovitch’s ouster became one of the issues explored in the House of Representatives impeachment inquiry against Trump;[25] her recall was termed “a political hit job” by Democratic members of Congress.[18][22]

On October 11, 2019, Yovanovitch gave closed-door deposition testimony before the House Oversight and Reform, Foreign Affairs and Intelligence committees.[32][19][33] A transcript of Yovanovitch’s full testimony was released to the public on November 5, 2019.[33]

The State Department sought to stop Yovanovitch from testifying before Congress, in line with Trump’s policy of refusing to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry.[19] The House Intelligence Committee issued a subpoena, stating that “the illegitimate order from the Trump Administration not to cooperate has no force”—and Yovanovitch proceeded to give testimony.[19]

In her testimony, Yovanovitch testified that Trump had pressured the State Department to remove her, and that she was “incredulous” to be removed based on “unfounded and false claims by people with clearly questionable motives.”[19] Yovanovitch stated that after her removal, Deputy Secretary of State John Sullivan had told her that she had done nothing wrong but that the State Department had been under political pressure from Trump to remove her since summer 2018.[19]

Sullivan, in his own testimony to Congress, corroborated Yovanovitch’s testimony, confirmed that Yovanovitch was the target of a smear campaign, and publicly affirmed that Yovanovitch had served “admirably and capably” as ambassador.[34]

Yovanovitch testified that her removal was the result of “significant tension between those who seek to transform the country and those who wish to continue profiting from the old ways,” and that false narratives were pushed from an “unfortunate alliance between Ukrainians who continue to operate within a corrupt system, and Americans who either did not understand that corrupt system, or who may have chosen, for their own purposes, to ignore it.”[35] Yovanovitch described the State Department under Trump as “attacked and hollowed out from within,” and warned that the Russia and other U.S. rivals would benefit “when bad actors in countries beyond Ukraine see how easy it is to use fiction and innuendo to manipulate our system.”[19]

Yovanovitch testified that when she sought advice from U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland on how to respond to the smear campaign, Sondland recommended that she tweet praise for Trump.[36][37]

Yovanovitch also detailed attempts by Giuliani to interfere in the State Department’s consular decisions, by attempting to override a U.S. visa denial for former Ukrainian official Viktor Shokin, who had been declared ineligible for travel in the United States based on his “known corrupt activities.”[38][36] Yovanovitch also said that she was “shocked” and felt threatened by Trump’s statement, in a phone call with Zelensky, that “she’s going to go through some things,” testifying that she was very concerned “that the President would speak about me or any ambassador in that way to a foreign counterpart.”[36]

Yovanovitch testified to Congress “My parents fled Communist and Nazi regimes. Having seen, firsthand, the war and poverty and displacement common to totalitarian regimes, they valued the freedom and democracy the U.S. offers and that the United States represents. And they raised me to cherish those values.”[39]

After being ousted as U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Yovanovitch became a Senior State Department Fellow at Georgetown University’s Institute for the Study of Diplomacy.[4]


8 posted on 11/15/2019 4:56:57 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Textide

My experience with redheads is that they are fun, wild and crazy, but mostly the latter.


9 posted on 11/15/2019 4:57:02 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Textide

Christine Ballsy-Ford, the Sequel.

How soon after being sworn is with the contrived whiney voice/tears begin?

I say no longer than 5 minutes.


10 posted on 11/15/2019 4:57:08 AM PST by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat..... & ERIC CIARAMELLA")
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To: mewzilla

Rosa Klebb was more feminine.


11 posted on 11/15/2019 4:58:13 AM PST by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat..... & ERIC CIARAMELLA")
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

“As on the first day of these hearings, I cannot bear watching this shamnesty - so will rely on all who have a stronger stomach than I do to relay what is going on.”

Probably cheaper than a new TV. :)


12 posted on 11/15/2019 4:59:13 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Howie66
😂
13 posted on 11/15/2019 4:59:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Will she speak in the voice of a wounded 8 year old girl?


14 posted on 11/15/2019 5:02:02 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Liz

Geez. This will be a victim fest based upon that wiki bio. Should be fun to watch.


15 posted on 11/15/2019 5:03:01 AM PST by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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More faces of previously unknown DS actors on stage today in Schiff’s clown fire brigade circus. Who of the junior Dems want to be tagged with this Schitt Show?


16 posted on 11/15/2019 5:04:32 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Textide

bkmk


17 posted on 11/15/2019 5:05:51 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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copied:
1. Is it common practice for Ambassadors to call the President directly?

2. Is it common practice to use unsecured cell phones to talk to the President?

3. Is it common practice to talk to the President on an unsecured cell phone while in a public place?

4. Did he have the thing on speaker phone, or did the staffer just hear one side of the conversation?

5. Who called who?


18 posted on 11/15/2019 5:06:07 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Liz

The Dems are really going to suffer for this woman. She’s so clearly conflicted Schiff’s going to have to literally stop all questioning or she’s going to be humiliated.


19 posted on 11/15/2019 5:06:24 AM PST by struggle
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To: shelterguy

Safe bet. Just how long will it take?


20 posted on 11/15/2019 5:06:24 AM PST by Howie66 ("...Against All Enemies, Foreign and Democrat..... & ERIC CIARAMELLA")
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