As Mark Levin points out (on a different topic but the logic should apply all the same) the objection would be made, but then the Senate can vote using only a 50% majority to over-rule the decision.
Whether they go such a route, we shall see.
I put the odds of impeachment at 80% or so, because the House would look absolutely ridiculous to go through all this only to fail to file articles.
But once it gets to the Senate, they can call whatever witnesses they want. Personally, at this moment in time, I think they should dismiss the charges immediately. But there is something to the logic of using the impeachment for political advantage. The Dems sure are using it for politics. The Senate can turn the trial into a spotlight on Democrat political corruption. Trump’s call asks for 2 favors: Investigate crowdstrike, and find out about this Hunter/Biden bribery of Ukraine. Why did Trump link the two? The House wants to focus on one thing, but the record begs the question why did Trump in his mind link the two issues. If there is a legitimate law enforcement question or corruption issue they should get to the bottom of it.
I’m hoping that the IG and Durham reports are so big that it crushes the impeachment movement like an ant.
Linking those two things together creates a much larger playing field. Ukraine can investigate one, produce a finding on that specific thing and that’s it. Knowing that all of these people were/are in cahoots with each other and were going to profit off the whole thing, his request is one YUGE net to get all of them.
That’s a pretty legit strategy.
Too many compromised Never Trumpers in the Senate. Anything done there on this is risky, because one manipulative media blowup could give them enough cover to strike.
It’ll likely blow over without consequence, but the risk of Trump’s actual removal is there and shouldn’t be played with.
Agree - the Dems can’t risk a trial in the senate. It is hold expose too much of their corruption.
I think they will illegally vote to censure the president at the end of the house hearings.
We do NOT want a trial. No matter how innocent a person is, the chance of a conviction radically increases with any trial.
We want an IMMEDIATE dismissal vote. (50 needed, Pence can break the tie)
Let me relate a lesson from season 2 of The Apprentice.
In season 2 only, the show instituted the strategy of "immunity." A successful project manager would receive immunity from being called to the boardroom in the next challenge. By being immune from the boardroom, the winning project manager is guaranteed to survive the next task.
The winner of the first task (Bradford Cohen, lawyer) was on the losing team in week 2. When told that he was immune and can return to the suite, Cohen said that he believed the team should stand or fall together, and refused immunity. The losing project manager brought Cohen into the boardroom, claiming that he slacked off during the task.
In the boardroom, Trump's Executive Vice President and Senior Counsel George Ross told Cohen that he made the cardinal error in business: he took a sure thing and turned it into a gamble. While he lauded his loyalty to his team, he should have taken the immunity and lived to fight another day. Instead, he gave up the immunity and took the gamble of the boardroom. Ross said he should be fired for this blunder, and Trump agreed.
The lesson here is to not trade the sure thing (or closest to it) of the motion to dismiss for the gamble of a trial in the Senate.
While it's laudable to want the satisfaction of calling Biden, Clinton, et. al. to appear under oath, it opens up the President to the risks of a Senate trial that might be avoidable.
It's best to take the path that ends this sham at the earliest opportunity possible.
-PJ
Lots of witnesses they could call in a Senate hearing. Lots of crap about the democrats and the coup could come out.
But....counting on the republicans. That’s the problem.
80% and falling.
RATs want to get rid of Pres. Trump...period. In the mean time, every second of every minute of every hour of every day is used to deflect,defer,harass,sue and stop Pres. Trump’s agenda until he is gone. It started on election night when the MSM wouldn’t call states for Pres. Trump even though HRC had no path to win that state. It hasn’t let up since.
I do not put it past the house reps to have 15 (or how many)articles of impeachment(Alcee Hastings had 17), submit a few at a time. Make the Senate go thru a trial. Wash\rinse repeat.
Gotta keep the senate.
Re-take the House, if possible...
Re-elect Pres. Trump.
/rant off
exactly