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Self-driving Uber car that hit and killed woman did not recognize that pedestrians jaywalk
NBC ^ | 11 09 2019 | Phil McCausland

Posted on 11/10/2019 9:18:55 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: duckman
Everyone is culpable in this one.

The software designers will never be able to write a perfect program that can recognize every situation.

The Uber driver was told it was a TEST CAR and to keep her eyes on the road. She didn't. She was watching 'The Voice' on her smartphone.

The jaywalker slowly walked her bike across a multi-lane road in an area without any streetlights while there was a car speeding toward her.

41 posted on 11/10/2019 10:00:13 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

There’s a stupid...


42 posted on 11/10/2019 10:02:27 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They purposely disabled the self braking function of the Volvo they were using. Had they left it on the Woman would be alive and well.


43 posted on 11/10/2019 10:03:02 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (One Man's Mainstream Media is another Man's Ministry of Propoganda.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Number one rule of technology: Just because you can do it doesn’t mean you should do it.
44 posted on 11/10/2019 10:04:13 AM PST by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I have no doubt, but that’s still not “intelligence.”


45 posted on 11/10/2019 10:06:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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To: yesthatjallen
...this automated Uber not having "the capability to classify an object as a pedestrian unless that object was near a crosswalk,"

To resolve this problem the Ministry of People Movement Control has mandated that people can't cross streets where there aren't government authorized crosswalks.

Is this our future?

46 posted on 11/10/2019 10:08:46 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: dfwgator

You are way behind. That is v0.1 of the code, an alpha release from around 2013.

The current beta v0.4 release accounts for non-binary, CIGgendered, heteronormative, gender fluidity, trannies and antifa.


47 posted on 11/10/2019 10:12:06 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TexasGator
Article? 😲
48 posted on 11/10/2019 10:13:36 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: yesthatjallen
...Uber not having "the capability to classify an object as a pedestrian unless that object was near a crosswalk,"

Head of Uber Software Engineering after the death: “Rajiv, get together with product management and marketing; revise the MRD so we account for pedestrians who may not be in crosswalks.”

49 posted on 11/10/2019 10:15:38 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yesthatjallen

I live in Phoenix, and have been amazed at people darting into heavy traffic on Northern Ave. at night. I also wonder how the cars will “see” the legion panhandlers, walking up and own the highway exits on the left shoulder,


50 posted on 11/10/2019 10:17:00 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: ifinnegan

It’s astonishing to think they have a camera on the “safety driver,” but they didn’t add protection to stop the vehicle if the safety driver was inattentive or looking away from the road for mor than one second. It would be a piece of cake to use a Microsoft Azure Kinect DK and sensors to do that.


51 posted on 11/10/2019 10:19:50 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: dfwgator
i want to see the line where the only choice is plowing into a group of school girls or a head on with a semi...

i've already seen talk how it will sacrifice the driver and passengers

52 posted on 11/10/2019 10:19:59 AM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: yesthatjallen; All

so if the AI capabilities of self-driving cars can’t even recognize something as basic as jaywalkers, just think of the hundreds of thousands of other, more subtle, driving situations self-driving cars will fail at ...


53 posted on 11/10/2019 10:22:35 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: BushCountry

“Regular drivers kill jaywalkers by the boatload.”

Yes but regular drivers don’t have deep pockets subject to product liability lawsuits.


54 posted on 11/10/2019 10:29:30 AM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: yesthatjallen
From the article...
NTSB also noted that Uber's Advanced Technologies Group had a technical system safety team in place, but failed to "have a standalone operational safety division or safety manager." The company also "did not have a formal safety plan, a standardized operations procedure (SOP) or guiding document for safety."
Wow...that is just unbelievable!
55 posted on 11/10/2019 10:32:45 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yesthatjallen
the car could not recognize Herzberg as a pedestrian or person

Is there a difference?

56 posted on 11/10/2019 10:33:16 AM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Kickass Conservative

The article doesn’t say that auto-braking was disabled. Did you read that elsewhere?

The article says the car “decided” it had to brake 1.3 seconds before the impact. But the article also does not say if the car was actually braking.


57 posted on 11/10/2019 10:34:48 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: BobL

Yeah, me, too. I’m a very defensive driver, constantly scanning for pending and possible hazards. If some other driver is approaching a stop sign on a sifted road ahead of me way too fast, I slow way down anticipating him or her blowing through the stop sign. It shouldn’t be hard to program that behavior into a self driving car.

Not long ago, I saw a Waymo test car came up behind a local delivery van parked half in the traffic lane and half in the bike lane, flashers on. The Waymo car was totally flummoxed and stopped, blocking the part of the driving lane that was open. The safety driver took over to get around the delivery van. Not ready for prime time.


58 posted on 11/10/2019 10:41:03 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: FreeReign
[the government] has mandated that people can't cross streets where there aren't government authorized crosswalks.

Those laws have been on the books for about 100 years now. They are about as effective as laws against murder in Chicago.

59 posted on 11/10/2019 10:42:55 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yesthatjallen

60 posted on 11/10/2019 10:43:31 AM PST by montag813 (Sheri Bruder)
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