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Impeachment of Trump would be an unconstitutional attainder
Fredericksburg.com ^ | Sep 30, 2019 | Victor Williams

Posted on 11/02/2019 4:14:21 PM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 11/02/2019 4:14:21 PM PDT by xzins
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The inability to articulate a crime of any kind, or even to articulate a reasonable hypothesis of a crime, means that the democrats truly are engaged in a witch hunt.

As you can see from this article, a witch hunt is an attainder. It is an effort to have a person tainted by constant harrassment, fake accusations, etc.


2 posted on 11/02/2019 4:14:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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an attainder. It is an effort to have a person tainted by constant harassment, fake accusations, etc.

So President Trump can have his picture next to that definition on internet dictionaries. Who has been harassed and falsely accused as much as he?

No one.

3 posted on 11/02/2019 4:18:00 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud & harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media nepws censorship or we are finished.)
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4 posted on 11/02/2019 4:19:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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It doesn’t matter what the Constitution says, Pelosi and her communists Democrats have the vote in the House to impeach President Trump. It doesn’t matter what the reason is but they have the votes. It will be the Senate to take action and the Senate is mostly made up of RINO’s and cowards. The impeachment will not pass most of the Senate.


5 posted on 11/02/2019 4:22:41 PM PDT by Logical me
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Trump should fire the top 2000 people.


6 posted on 11/02/2019 4:23:53 PM PDT by Singermom
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Over the past three years the Demonicrat House has done nothing less than give aid and comfort to the enemy.


7 posted on 11/02/2019 4:24:13 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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For $340 million, Soros could get the Senate to vote to convict—offer $20 million each to 17 Republican Senators to vote to convict (Romney, Murkowski and Collins will vote that way for free). Of course they would have to move to New Zealand afterwards. They could be neighbors there with James Comey, except that Comey will stay in the US if Trump is removed from office.


8 posted on 11/02/2019 4:25:02 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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the U.S. Constitution’s Article II, Section 4 has an exacting “high crimes” evidence standard for a valid House impeachment

The author's points on the continue harassment of Trump, but I am not clear why he omitted "and misdemeanors" from his description.

9 posted on 11/02/2019 4:25:44 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Youth, speed and energy can always be overcome with experience and treachery.)
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And would change this cold civil war into a hot one.

JoMa


10 posted on 11/02/2019 4:26:04 PM PDT by joma89
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Conservatives are not understanding the liberals playbook, THEY believe no crime is needed to impeach, just votes are needed and votes CAN be obtained by criminal accusations but not required in their feeble process..

Just listen to CNN recently beat-down a guest for having the audacity to suggest crimes are required to impeach
https://www.mediaite.com/news/cnns-camerota-triggers-matt-schlapp-by-telling-him-you-cant-be-misleading-about-trump-impeachment/

Or this AP article from a few weeks ago greasing the skids to basically say congress decides who the president shall be and they hold the power to remove without any crimes
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3790844/posts

Their game plan, there is only a quid needed to impeach quo is no longer needed ( since they don't have one) , and how dare the American public think they elect and choose who shall be president, the agenda is that congress can remove for whatever reason as long as they frame it as an abuse for what ever reason without any proof. No actual crimes required, just votes.

11 posted on 11/02/2019 4:30:09 PM PDT by seastay
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Isn’t it true that there is no specific definition of high crimes and misdemeanors? I think all agree that a speeding ticket is not a high crime, but otherwise there is leeway.

Wasn’t one of Nixon’s articles of impeachment, an abuse of power, which they didn’t really specifically define?


12 posted on 11/02/2019 4:30:39 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Victor Williams, a widely-published scholar on the impeachment removal process, has taught at Catholic University’s Columbus School of Law, the City University of New York’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, and the University of Maryland’s Carey School of Law. Williams is chair of Lawyers and Law Professors for Trump, and is running for the U.S. Senate in 2020 against Sen. Mark Warner.


13 posted on 11/02/2019 4:33:40 PM PDT by nikos1121
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The Dems are just making it up as they go along and things fail and backfire on them


14 posted on 11/02/2019 4:34:06 PM PDT by butlerweave
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Hmmm.

Why would they have to move? Seems to me that many, many of the hundreds of Senators and Congressmen are on the take for more or less money than your figure, perhaps even per annum.

They live, breathe, sleep, and live spectacular, rewarding lives with impunity, they retire as millionaires or billionaires, even though their actions virtually prove they are on the take to someone really bad.

If not bribery, how could one explain their actions which are so inimical to good, ethical, behavior and good government, and so toxic to their constituents and to the United States as a nation.

Other than massive bribery, what on earth could explain the behavior of the Democrats and many of the Republicans?

What?

15 posted on 11/02/2019 4:34:18 PM PDT by caddie (We must all become Trump, starting now!)
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When are republicans going to wake up and realize their asses are on the line too. If they allow this travesty to continue then they deserve what they’re going to get.


16 posted on 11/02/2019 4:35:07 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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Is that fancy for “people would hang for treason”?


17 posted on 11/02/2019 4:35:32 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Someone should point this out to Trump’s lawyers.


18 posted on 11/02/2019 4:35:35 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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Attainder is exactly what Pelosi is doing. POTUS should sue them. Seriously. Thanks for posting this.


19 posted on 11/02/2019 4:38:40 PM PDT by TrueFact (Don't hang out with narcissists or dems...but I repeat myself.)
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Remember the much-touted "censure plus" proposed by every single democrat for a radius of 11 light years around DC?

Yep, Bill of Attainder.

And they all knew it.

Hanging is too good for these subhuman vermin.

Actually, I'm kinda hoping Melania gets her claws into them instead.

Woman scorned and all that.

20 posted on 11/02/2019 4:42:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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