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As the internet turns 50, we must protect it as a force for good
Web Foundation ^ | October 29, 2019 | Web Foundation

Posted on 10/30/2019 11:51:10 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: yesthatjallen

Wait....I thought al gore invented the internet!


41 posted on 10/30/2019 3:00:01 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: yesthatjallen

Code speak for censorship. You either take the good with the bad or burn it all down.


42 posted on 10/30/2019 3:18:44 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: dp0622
Not sure how long printers have been around and was there ANY kind of public internet access before the mid 90s?

Sorry, I assumed you were around for the last century like many posters! I was on the Internet back in the early 1970s, using mini's in large facilities. Got on early PCs after the mid-1970s, and used early trial software to access the Internet via 300 BAUD modems. Think in terms of a character for each byte, and BAUD in terms of bits, commonly 8 bits per byte, so 300 BAUD is 300 bits per second (rough explanation). Took forever to download, painfully painting each character slowly from left to right.

I used CompuServe a lot to access forums and bulletin boards, in the late 1970s through the 1980s. That was one service, and quite popular. Friends of mine were admins. So yeah, lots of public internet long before the 1990s.

When the WWW came along I got criticized but trainers of computer education courses for disabling the graphics (I was used to quickly scanning the text content), because the teachers said a lot of work went into the graphics and they paid money to developers to fund the WWW. Well, I still block lots of pop-ups to this day!

43 posted on 10/30/2019 4:57:57 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: DoughtyOne

‘We are a Republic.’

a republic is a system of governance, a democracy is a philosophy that shapes how the government is run; a republican form of governance allows a country to be democratic...


44 posted on 10/30/2019 5:39:24 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

A Democracy is mob rule.

We have a Republic, a representative form of government for a reason.


45 posted on 10/30/2019 5:57:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail House Sneaker Fancy Smelosi...)
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To: roadcat

That actually sounds like a smart idea.

And wow I didn’t know there was ANY internet that early.

300. It must have taken FOREVER to print something out.

i remember working in a graphics dept in the late 90s and the queue for all of us waiting for our print outs took FOREVER.

My first computer had 16MB storage!!!


46 posted on 10/30/2019 7:38:28 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622
My first computer had 16MB storage!!!

Mine had 4KB storage. And half of that was for system use with bootstrap routines and temp use, so all of 2KB for my personal use. 16K storage cost an additional $500; I was happy when it dropped to $250 so when I upgraded I had 20KB storage. You had 4000 times the storage I started with. And we didn't have disk drives or floppies, we saved programs to cassette tapes, which were an improvement over the punched paper tape I used on minis. Lots of changes in the last 5 decades! Now I know the feeling my dad had watching our astronauts land on the Moon, having started out driving a Model T car many decades earlier.

47 posted on 10/30/2019 7:57:54 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

WHAT CAN YOU POSSIBLY DO WITH 2KB?!?!!?!?!

I would have stroked out with impatience!!

I can’t even figure in my head how many more times storage a terabyte holds than your original.

I’m getting ridiculous numbers in my head that can’t be right. Wow.


48 posted on 10/30/2019 8:04:54 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622
WHAT CAN YOU POSSIBLY DO WITH 2KB?!?!!?!?!

You do what you can in the times you live in. With assembly language, you can create very precise programs that take up little machine language space as compared to higher level programming. I wrote a Keno gambling program, complete with graphics in that 2K space. A couple Computerland stores displayed my Keno program as demos in their stores. I was in a computer club, and members often showed their work to each other, and we gave away code for free.

I worked as a systems programmer on IBM mainframes, and even there we learned to be frugal with code. One of the languages I programmed was a 5-bit code, limited character set that used 62 percent of space compared to regular machine code which took 8-bits per character. Wrote and maintained some programs for police departments. Even mainframes were limited in space in the early days.

49 posted on 10/30/2019 8:55:34 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: IrishBrigade

Democracy = Two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.


50 posted on 10/30/2019 9:20:16 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: roadcat

That’s incredible and great.

And yeah my question was a silly one because YOU WORK WITH WHAT YOU HAVE.

Kids today would say to me “how did you work on a 16mb computer!!!!??!!??!

I worked with what i had at the time.

Sounds like you guys were really good at what you did.


51 posted on 10/30/2019 10:12:19 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: VanDeKoik

Everyone is a
“Zombie Phone”
Prisoner.
We Are Doomed.


52 posted on 10/31/2019 6:55:41 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Censors abound.

Vote them out, and if eventually necessary, cut their throats.


53 posted on 10/31/2019 7:02:46 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Epstein proves it's all a charade.)
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