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Body camera footage of SC shooting contradicts police claims By JEFFREY COLLINS
apnews.com ^ | July 29, 2019 | Jeffrey Collins

Posted on 10/18/2019 8:44:41 PM PDT by heartwood

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To: The_Media_never_lie
What did the citizen posses[s] that he had to perform sentry duty to protect?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, "His life, as well as the lives of his loved ones!"

Regards,

21 posted on 10/18/2019 10:06:29 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Such a person is not “protecting his house”. He is protecting his life and his family”s.

I don’t know where you live, but when you grow up you will learn that there is no such thing as a safe neighborhood. It may not have happened yet in yours, but eventually it will.

I live in a rural neighborhood that is composed of the nicest people you will ever meet, but there have been 5 murders since 1970 all within a few miles of our farm

The nearest town is one of the best in the southeast, but it has changed from a town that you once upon a time could walk anywhere in town at night with no fear to a town that has areas where you better not even drive through at night.

Ridiculing a person for wanting to protect his home is something I don’t understand.

Remember, when seconds count the cops will be there to save you in minutes.


22 posted on 10/18/2019 10:07:23 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: old curmudgeon

Where I live there’s no LE coverage from 2330 until 0630, and even then they could be over an hour away.


23 posted on 10/18/2019 10:13:00 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: alexander_busek

If the citizen is protecting his life and the life of his family, he should find the best defensive position he can find and out of sight. Probably a bedroom which normally has drawn curtains would have been better. I am simply thinking defensively.


24 posted on 10/18/2019 10:15:08 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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To: old curmudgeon
Ridiculing a person for wanting to protect his home is something I don’t understand.


I did not ridicule any one.
25 posted on 10/18/2019 10:16:16 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
When someone is in their own home with doors and windows shut, how much further do you think a resident needs to go to not “be a visible target?”

Do you expect him to retreat to the bathroom, drop trou, and start a $#!+?

26 posted on 10/18/2019 11:23:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Wear your chains lightly. Don’t count on me for help.


27 posted on 10/19/2019 12:00:15 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: heartwood

I admire your reasoned and rational response to another police shooting of a homeowner in his own home. I also admire your patience in explaining this to someone who obviously has no clue, or lost it is he ever had one. I’ll try to imitate your good example.


28 posted on 10/19/2019 12:05:06 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Spktyr

The thing is, police regularly are dealing with things which should be private.

How should we all know, that communications is private? You’re not actually thinking that would be the case?

I am NOT thinking that is a good assumption.

At all...


29 posted on 10/19/2019 12:36:32 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: heartwood

I’d have my finger on the trigger, but have my thumb on a newspaper.


30 posted on 10/19/2019 12:47:57 AM PDT by Does so ("Fake impeachments" should be revealed to everyone...)
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To: cba123

Confidentiality is nothing weighed against police misbehavior of the type that gets people killed *by* the police for no good reason.

Also, there are departments who have this policy already and they don’t seem to have any problems. Access to the recordings can be restricted as they are now to prevent most access. That is not a reason to allow the police to run around unrecorded.

It should also be mentioned that there is a growing number of cops that have been *exonerated* by their bodycams.


31 posted on 10/19/2019 1:49:09 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: heartwood

Many police officers believe themselves fully justified in shooting anyone at a place to which they have been called for any reason if that someone has or might have something in his hand. I will not call police to my or anyone else’s house for any reason.


32 posted on 10/19/2019 2:42:00 AM PDT by arthurus (Xpofghd̉)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

When I hear a racket in my yard at night I will be armed with gun in hand until I have an explanation for the noise.


33 posted on 10/19/2019 2:43:30 AM PDT by arthurus (Xpofghd̀7;)
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To: Spktyr
The victim was inside their house and within their rights

There was no one else mentioned so "within his rights" would not appear quite so ignorant. We should not be writing from the PC stylebook here. "Zer rights" would be as bad.

34 posted on 10/19/2019 2:46:51 AM PDT by arthurus (Xpoftds#768w;7;)
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“Any police department (or university faculty, or military unit, etc.) is only as good as the worst psycho they tolerate.” ~ H/T RedStateRocker


35 posted on 10/19/2019 3:05:05 AM PDT by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: SandwicheGuy
Wear your chains lightly. Don’t count on me for help.


Even if you were willing to help, it would take you too long to get here!

I ccw when I walk at night in the small town I live in. I feel quite safe carrying my Glock 19. :)

36 posted on 10/19/2019 5:11:11 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“What did the citizen posses that he had to perform sentry duty to protect?”

Uhm....his life?


37 posted on 10/19/2019 6:21:15 AM PDT by moovova (You can't buy it back if you didn't sell it to me.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

PBut I will have to say, what kind of citizen would draw a gun and brandish the weapon “protecting” his house?”

I object to your characterization of the actions of the homeowner. I see no reference in the story that anyone other than the police “drew” a weapon, which implies that they were walking around with a holstered weapon to begin with.

Secondly, characterizing someone as “brandishing” requires establishing intent to threaten or intimidate a person. Someone inside their residence is perfectly within their rights to anticipate that whatever chaos was occurring outside might soon be requiring them to defend themselves.

Lastly, are you really implying that homeowners have no right to protect their property and possessions?


38 posted on 10/19/2019 6:21:28 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: UCANSEE2
"Probably because cops are exposed to more lethal situations than your random armed citizen."

They may indeed be exposed to more incidents, but they perform worse on a "per incident" basis. Armed citizens are far LESS likely to do an erroneous shoot than cops.

Cops have been brainwarped by all the mass assault "no-knock" hoopla. They need more and better training, and to get back to actually investigating better instead of ramboing ad-lib.

39 posted on 10/19/2019 6:33:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Never forget the Clutter murders (immortalized in the book and movie In Cold Blood). Nice town, quiet town, no trouble town, less than a couple hundred bucks in the house. And the whole family was brutally murdered. We are ALL targets to the bad guys, then can show up any time, for any reason, you don’t have to possess anything special. The COPS need to understand that THEY are acting like criminals when they wander around outside unannounced and we have a right to protection. Problem is too many believe in the “thin blue line” which divides the world into cops and scum, no middle ground. Which makes them extra paranoid, and also not too worried about killing civilians, because they’re scum.


40 posted on 10/19/2019 6:57:23 AM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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