Posted on 10/15/2019 8:33:28 PM PDT by DoodleBob
Yes but we had better teachers and better parents in those days. Also classes were taught in only one language and if a student couldn’t keep up they were kept behind.
The results were kids who actually learned something. They should do away with unions and only keep teachers who want the kids to learn.
Yup. I can teach at major universities but not highschool. Just silly.
You are correct on both counts. Administration is bloated and they do get higher pay. Locally here, a lot of administrators getting the big bucks have very little classroom experience...like two years or less, but they're piloting the ship.
Teachers support their unions, who, like all socialists, support those at the top. Socialism is nothing but a money and power grab. So, teachers don’t get all that money the school systems take, the administrators do.
We spend more on the school systems than we ever have, yet, teachers still make peanuts. It’s their own fault for supporting socialism.
My daughter is a teacher. Her pay is frankly not all that bad.
She is in a charter school. She has interviewed for many public school teaching jobs. None have been offered. The hiring practices of the public schools are a thoroughly corrupt cesspool of cronyism and nepotism. A district in this area famously got 3000 resumes for one job opening, and the job went to a relative of a school board member. That’s pretty much the norm.
It’s not the pay that drives people away from teaching.
One of two things:
1) Their ability to actually do the job is stifled by political correctness, pea-brained bureaucrats, and suffocating regulation from the States and the Feds.
2) Student discipline is so utterly lacking that in the best case scenario trying to teach them anything is a total waste of time (and in the worst your physical safety is in danger).
I find that conservatives don't know how to be citizens.
Yes! Why should conservatives make even the most feeble attempts to infiltrate and turn what clearly belongs to liberals.
Schools can’t find people to teach Computer Science classes. So they rework the standards enabling marketing teachers to handle it. Yes people, our system is in dire need of STEM teachers. And, no, teachers aren’t paid anywhere near the wage scale of an engineer.
WINNER!!
Oh sure. Online curriculum made by the same people would be so much better. < /sarcasm>
I have a Masters in Computer Science.
I changed careers in 2004 and got a teaching cert.
Couldn’t get a teaching job anywhere near where I live - my house and property is paid for, housing market was bad and selling it a loss equivalent to 2 years salary didn’t make sense.
Computer Science is NOT core curriculum and therefore doesn’t help.
Also certified in Business - have degrees there and ran my own business for years.
Passed the boards for Social Studies - what a joke - but they wouldn’t cert me because I hadn’t taken the classes - never mind I’d been in 30 countries on 4 continents, am a political junkie and a history buff.
I live in Michigan, and a recent study showed that accounting for cost of living Michigan had the highest paid teachers in the nation.
The classrooms are a zoo, can’t discipline, and way to much overhead.
I gained a three year teaching PERMIT that put me in the classroom while working on certification. My course was titled "Embedded Computing", and mine was the only one in Georgia at the time. I had a wonderful time with my students, and most were starved for a class that had some content. In three years I had seven students tell me that I provided them with a clear career path and plans for higher learning. Many told me that my class was their favorite in all of high school. I had no discipline problems whatsoever.
At my age I do not want to go back to school for a teaching certificate; therefore, I left the system once the permit expired.
I sometimes think that I should have retired earlier from industry in order to teach. The school was very happy with me and allowed me to go beyond course standards as I pleased. They also bought anything I wanted. In short, the school and the students were indeed hungry for a teacher who could handle such a class.
Well, competent teachers among the sea of union water treaders is a hot commodity I would imagine.
Deport all illegals. No exceptions. If you pretend that only 50% of illegals are in school and that there are only 12 million illegals, that would be 6 million fewer children in school. By itself, that would completely solve the teacher “shortage”, even ignoring the fact that illegals require smaller classes because of the language issues and other special needs.
I am just saying, why do we spend billions on buses, buildings, teachers etc when all of this can be replaced with a data center at 1/100th of the cost
However, most people report class sizes of 30-40. Thus, of that 8 million "teacher" count, to get to an avg class size of 35 you find we have 1.4 million actual teachers.
If we got rid of the 6 million illegal kids we’d have avg class sizes of 31 across 1.4 million teachers. That's great.
...but we still have too many bureaucrats.
If we deported 6 million bureaucrats too, THEN we'd be talkin'.
Yes! Why should conservatives make even the most feeble attempts to infiltrate and turn what clearly belongs to liberals.
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That’d be great.
Break the national teachers’ union first. Destroy the national education department, second. Decorate the street lamps and telephone polls with the rotting carcasses of the grotesquely incompetent and overwhelmingly commiescum district management personnel in most districts.
Then having teachers that aren’t thumb-sucking stupid leftards could be useful.
Besides, most online curriculum does not include much student/teacher discussions including a flexible question/answer opportunity. Most of it is even of lesser quality than what students can get in the classroom.
Given the phone/Facebook social environment, how would taking away even more face-to-face time be of much help? We are supposed to be living in a society, not separate cocoons interconnected by the Internet.
Of course, conservatives won't actually do anything. They will angrily blog.
Non-core curriculum is formulated by drooling idiots at the highest levels.
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