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Oregon and Washington: We’ll start building a new Interstate Bridge by 2025
The Oregonian ^ | September 24, 2019 | Andrew Theen

Posted on 10/11/2019 12:29:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Federal highway officials on Tuesday endorsed an accelerated timeline proposed by Oregon and Washington transportation officials that sets the two states on a fast track toward construction on a new Interstate Bridge by 2025.

Last month, the two states requested a 10-year extension on their timeline to show progress on the bridge project or face repaying nearly $140 million in planning costs tied to the Columbia River Crossing Project. That request would’ve given the states until Sept. 30, 2029, to either start buying up right-of-way or began construction on the I-5 project.

While seeking a decade delay, the states simultaneously suggested a series of aggressive milestones, including reinitiating an environmental review of a proposed project in spring 2020 and starting construction in the summer of 2025.

Travis Brouwer, Oregon’s deputy director for transportation, described the milestones as “highly theoretical,” but also “aspirational” and “reasonable.”

The Federal Highway Administration declined the 10-year extension request but endorsed the aggressive timeline and echoed Brouwer’s assertion. The states now must show considerable progress, including buying up necessary right of way, by the end of September 2024. If the states don’t accomplish that goal, they could owe a collective $140 million to the federal government for planning costs related to the past bridge effort. Oregon’s share is $93.3 million.

“Recognizing the complex nature of the project, including the need to complete on-going consultations on at the federal, state and local levels,” the highway agency wrote, alluding to the political and financial questions surrounding what will likely be a project costing multiple billions of dollars, “FHWA believes it is reasonable for FHWA to grant a time extension.’

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bridge; chat; construction; deadlines; delays; i5; infrastructure; localnews; oregon; portland; transportation; vancouver; washington
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1 posted on 10/11/2019 12:29:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Imagine... the first transcontinental railroad construction began in 1863 and was completed 6 years later. Our generation sucks.


2 posted on 10/11/2019 12:32:07 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Don’t they realize the world only has 11.5 more years?


3 posted on 10/11/2019 12:32:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BobL; sphinx; Publius; GreenLanternCorps; oldvirginian
Oregon, Washington to begin building new I-5 bridge by 2025 (9/25/19)

PING!

4 posted on 10/11/2019 12:35:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: kjam22

Washington state for one, requires that all state transportation construction IIRC be done only by unionists.....it adds a lot to the cost and planning...


5 posted on 10/11/2019 12:35:40 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

‘nearly $140 million in planning costs’

There’s a WTF moment for you.


6 posted on 10/11/2019 12:35:56 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Take the money back and give it to a state that will use it for highways and bridges.


7 posted on 10/11/2019 12:36:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: o-n-money

Both states love big gooberment. Hence the high cost for taxpayers.


8 posted on 10/11/2019 12:38:21 PM PDT by Demanwideplan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What’s wrong with the old bridge? Other than it’s scary as hell crossing on a motorcycle when the winds are blowing.


9 posted on 10/11/2019 12:39:17 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The liberals who run Portland wanted to shove the MAX train system into Vancouver over the new bridge. The MAX is locally known as the "Crime Train" because the gangs use it to get around.

A couple years ago some idiot lib-tards did an analysis of the people arrested for fare evasion on the MAX and discovered that blacks and Hispanics were highly over-represented.

Using Tard Logic they deduced that the MAX police were racist and targeting blacks.

The Tard Politicians and Bureacrats then made the obvious call: stop prosecuting fare evasion, because the crime has a "disparate impact" on blacks.

You can't make this stuff up it is so stupid.

The new unofficial motto of the MAX is "gangsters ride for free".

So of course people in Clark County (Vancouver) Washington did not want the Liberal Crime Train in our city. And we also did not want to have to pay tolls to cross into Oregon, where many Vancouver residents work.

Washington residents who work in Oregon already pay incomes taxes up to 9.5% to the State of Oregon. The idea of now also being charged $4 a day to use the bridge was not a popular one.

The bridge issue had a huge impact (and continues to) on Vancouver politics. Essentially the Leftists democrats who had run both the City of Vancouver and Clark County as their own private club were voted out by the voters for supporting the Bridge. (Formally known as the "Columbia River Crossing" - tards are so pretentious) .

The Mayor (a Dem) was replaced with a new Mayor who ran against the CRC, and then suddenly changed sides to support it after being elected. He too was voted out the next chance voters had.

Even our Congressional District flipped from D to R largely as a result of the blowback from the Liberals, Democrats and Portland Know-It-Alls trying to force the CRC onto a city that did not want either tolls or minority thugs in our city.

But, they are relentless. I would not be at all surprised to see the "new" bridge still including both Tolls and the Crime Train.

10 posted on 10/11/2019 12:42:09 PM PDT by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is one of the few places where an interstate highway crosses a river on a drawbridge. The first drawbridge was built in 1917, and its companion drawbridge was built in 1955. Replacement with a high-rise bridge has been under discussion for decades, but now it appears that the two states are serious.

The project was held up for years due to the desire of the federal government that space be allocated on the new bridge for Portland's MAX light rail line to get it extended into Vancouver. It appears that this issue has been resolved.

11 posted on 10/11/2019 12:42:44 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s political project not engineering one. I have to say the form of America is not suitable for this kind of project. This one, if in China, would be done in 2 years and by half the cost


12 posted on 10/11/2019 12:43:10 PM PDT by Lee25
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Right after they solve climate change and homelessness.


13 posted on 10/11/2019 12:46:44 PM PDT by bewildered
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To: Demanwideplan

It’s an Interstate highway. It’s every state’s money.


14 posted on 10/11/2019 12:48:24 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: Not A Snowbird
What’s wrong with the old bridge?

It's old. Basically reaching the end of lifespan. Nothing lasts forever, not even concrete and steel. But the process is now mired in environmental red tape and run by bureaucrooks so it will cost orders of magnitude more than what the original bridge cost. So sick and tired of government. It's ridiculous that this project is still in the planning stage.

15 posted on 10/11/2019 12:49:54 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"..they could owe a collective $140 million to the federal government for planning costs related to the past bridge effort. Oregon’s share is $93.3 million".

This occurred in the same time frame Oregon dumped $200 million on the obamacare web page that enrolled not one person.

16 posted on 10/11/2019 1:06:10 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (expect nothing)
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To: Not A Snowbird

“What’s wrong with the old bridge?”

It doesn’t have enough lanes. The new bridge, as previously planned, would have....... the same number of lanes.


17 posted on 10/11/2019 1:07:03 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The takeaway; $140 million to plan a bridge and I doubt the planning is of yet comprehensive. Marinate on that, $140 million for planning. The structure being replaced probably didn’t cost $140 million in equivalent dollars for the whole job. This country is severely losing it’s edge.


18 posted on 10/11/2019 1:07:53 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Jack Black

I don’t see tolls as the end-all problem most people do. The bridge has to be funded. However, it’s utterly mind-boggling why Washington residents have to pay income tax to Oregon just to work there. Don’t they pay Oregon sales tax when they step out for lunch?


19 posted on 10/11/2019 1:34:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oregon doesn’t have a sales tax because it has a huge income tax. Washington doesn’t have an income tax because it has a huge sales tax.


20 posted on 10/11/2019 1:35:26 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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