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The Truth about Teacher Pay
National Affairs ^ | Fall 2019 | Andrew G. Biggs & Jason Richwine

Posted on 10/03/2019 11:21:55 AM PDT by karpov

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To: karpov

None of them work 12 months a year and as for college professors, they ALL have grad assistants and others who stand in for them. Many of them tech ONE class a term and are receiving ‘princely’ salaries. All the do is whine.


21 posted on 10/03/2019 12:07:13 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: karpov

I had a teacher tell me she thought teachers should be paid as much as doctors because their job was just as important. I have no doubt she really believes that, and she isn’t alone.


22 posted on 10/03/2019 12:08:57 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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teachers generally work approximately 180 days per year.
for this they receive their salary and healthcare benefits. after 20 or 25 years they are generally allowed to retire with a pension that is based on their salary during the most recent years and they also generally receive health benefits in retirement.
during their working years, the salary and benefits are generally as good or better than what the taxpayers who pay those costs receive for working a full year.
the retirement benefits are much better than the average benefits received by those taxpayers who pay the retirement costs. the taxpayers usually have to work to age 65 to collect whatever retirement benefits for which they may be eligible.
the teachers have been soaking the taxpayers for years. school districts, in order to cover the ever increasing cost of salaries, pensions and healthcare, continue to reduce the programs and activities available to students.
wake up and start attending your school board meetings.


23 posted on 10/03/2019 12:45:19 PM PDT by beekay
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To: karpov

Teachers maybe weren’t paid well 50 years ago but they have been overpaid for at least the last 25 years.


24 posted on 10/03/2019 1:43:56 PM PDT by bgill
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When she’s gotta have a 2 AM french fry fix, maybe that fry cook needs to get heart surgeons’ pay.


25 posted on 10/03/2019 1:50:29 PM PDT by bgill
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Teachers are mostly OVERPAID. You know, if they don’t like the pay, then get into another profession. I am sick to death of hearing about the poor ole’ teachers!


26 posted on 10/03/2019 2:16:30 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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They only work 180 days a year..they have the best racket going...they cannot get fired...so most do the minimum...My wife was a first second teacher...her kids could read and do math..and she made class time fun..,

Some teachers just do paperwork for the kids to do..

A math class in my wife class was here is a watermelon...we cut in half...it is a circle...then a half and then a quarter..we count the seeds and put them in sats of tens..we graph the number of seeds..there was other stuff but I can not remember..


27 posted on 10/03/2019 2:17:08 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: cherry
averaging %16 raises

It's percentage pay increases that have caused older teachers at the high end to be over paid, and young, new teachers to be under paid.

IMHO there should be no pay increases at the high end for a while, and flat dollar increases at the low end to help them catch up.

Then flat dollar from then on.

I brought this up at a school meeting, and you should have heard the older teachers howl.

They are the ones on the negotiating committees.

It's obvious they couldn't care less about the under paid teachers, just greedy.

When a young person is just starting out they have a LOT of expenses.

28 posted on 10/03/2019 2:39:09 PM PDT by Mogger
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To: gop4lyf
Not a math or economics teacher?

Everybody gets paid for the days they work, and not for the days they don't. If you wanted to negotiate 12 monthly checks for your 9 months work, you could do so. It'd just be politically unwise. "Vacation pay" is just the employer spreading money from days you work over the days you don't, for folks who can't budget.

FYI, employers don't pay for SocSec either, it all comes out of the same employee cost line on their budget.

29 posted on 10/03/2019 4:40:24 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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Anyone here a former fan of “Breaking Bad” and Walter White, the meth cooking public school teacher with a Master's degree in Chemistry from Cal Tech?

After a diagnosis of terminal lung cancer, Walter White vows to earn $750,000 to assure his children's education, pay off his house, and give his wife extra spending money.

As far as I know, the show never mentions the low six figure life insurance policy from his job benefits package.

Nor does it mention the life time survivor's benefits that his wife and autistic child will receive from his pension plan.

Most ridiculous of all - Walter White works summers and weekends as a near minimum wage cashier at a car wash. As a private math and science tutor, White could have been earning $50 an hour.

Anyway - the basic premise of the show is that Walt's family will be left penniless after his death, which is a total crock, and which detracts from the general narrative.

30 posted on 10/03/2019 10:45:58 PM PDT by zeestephen
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... a policy that will cost the state and schools TAXPAYERS!!! over $450 million per year,...
31 posted on 10/04/2019 5:30:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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The way to have teachers earn what they objectively deserve is to privatize all education. Private customers will then, using a system of free prices, declare what they believe each individual teacher deserves. The teacher will be free to accept the customers’ valuation or seek a different valuation elsewhere and/or in a different profession.


32 posted on 10/04/2019 7:50:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The potential for miscalculation and chaos is substantial." ~ Kevin Williamson)
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