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Fight over Trump's wall raises odds of 'continuous' stopgap measures
The Hill ^ | Sept 22, 2019 | BY NIV ELIS

Posted on 09/22/2019 7:43:02 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Congress is moving toward passing a short-term spending bill to avoid a government shutdown, but some lawmakers are warning it could be the first in a series of stopgap funding measures over the next year to avoid a fight over President Trump’s border wall.

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), the top appropriator in the Senate, said it’s possible Congress will spend the next fiscal year passing several stopgap bills, known as continuing resolutions (CRs).

"I don't know if we'll end up in a shutdown, but we could end up with continuous CRs," he said. "That could be the endgame."

Lawmakers are hoping to avoid a repeat of December's fight over Trump’s border wall, which led to a 35-day partial government shutdown, the longest in U.S. history...

"I'm not going to faint dead away if we end up with a CR for the whole year," said Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.), an appropriator.

Both parties, however, dislike the prospect of governing on a continuing resolution, which would freeze spending at current levels and block agencies from initiating new projects.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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To: sanjuanbob

Well that’s a good point.

They fail to recognize or acknowledge or admit that an overwhelmingly huge majority of Americans want the hordes of illegal aliens streaming across our borders stopped and have been clear in no uncertain terms for decades. It doesn’t matter if this is considered “racist” or “xenophobic” or “provincial” or whatever. Even if it were, (it isn’t) so what?

The raison d’être of our form of government by the people, for the people.

Consent of the governed.

Do you particularly recall consenting to any of this fvçking nonsense? Yeah, me neither.


21 posted on 09/22/2019 9:10:12 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Lurkinanloomin

At this point, even the illegal aliens want a border wall.


22 posted on 09/22/2019 9:12:25 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: 11th_VA

Does the Democrat party really want to die on the hill of open borders?


23 posted on 09/22/2019 9:36:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

There are (far) more than enough people fed up with selling American workers out to way more, than make up for a small band of turncoats, on the border.

Way more.

To heck with them. Don’t back off one inch, Mr. President.

Not a bit. In fact, double down.


24 posted on 09/23/2019 3:11:52 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: 11th_VA

Liberals tax and spend.

Conservatives cut taxes and spend.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that;^)


25 posted on 09/23/2019 3:49:49 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: hal ogen

So many traitors...so little time.


Guillotines were invented for just such a problem...


26 posted on 09/23/2019 6:12:26 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: 11th_VA

This illustrates the reality that I wrote about here:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/the_suicide_of_the_house_is_complete.html

By NOT doing its constitutional fiscal/budgetary duty, the House has made itself utterly irrelevant. Once it gave in to Continuing Resolutions, the House had no real power left. It allowed both Bush and Zero to get away with policies that should have been voted on (”declaration of war,” a proper legislative path to Obamacare-—which would have failed).

Since now all they can do is obstruct and investigate, they have no power at all. No wonder so many Rs are retiring.


27 posted on 09/23/2019 6:44:20 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 11th_VA

I used to be a fed contractor. CRs totally F up any sort of planning you might have done. My fed (Moron) sponsors would totally jump on our a$$es for not getting our projects done on time when we received no $s. Since we had no funding I had to find work for all my people and then redirect them again when some small chunk of funding came in, then do it all again when that ran out. The only people that were bigger a$$holes are the idiots in congress.


28 posted on 09/23/2019 7:59:00 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: 11th_VA

“I would think he could continue to build the wall with next year’s budget in a CR”

55 miles were appropriated in the previous year. A CR (or multiple CRs) for the next year will allow for another 55 miles. Spending level is maintained in a CR.

I consider that a WIN.


29 posted on 09/23/2019 8:59:13 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (Localization, not Globalization)
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To: SpeedyInTexas; 11th_VA

““I would think he could continue to build the wall with next year’s budget in a CR”

55 miles were appropriated in the previous year.”

Those miles were in the the Rio Grande Valley, and included many miles of the most expensive type - FEMA hurricane certified levee wall. In other areas, those dollars would go further. I am guessing that Laredo should get some miles next year - the appropriations seem to have been building up the Rio Grande from the South in 2018 and 2019 - all the way to Falcon Lake has already been largely funded.

Laredo is the biggest city on the border without significant barrier, and is the likely closest place for the heavy Rio Grande Valley traffic to divert to, once the currently funded construction chokes it off in the RGV Sector.

The 10 year baseline budget has an annual wedge of about $1.4 billion annually (thanks Paul Ryan), which gets indexed somehow to inflation. So that is what is likely in a CR. It is also the most likely outcome for an appropriation, if one passes (the Administration is requesting a $5 billion direct appropriation through DHS, and an additional $3.6 billion through other accounts).

60 or 70 miles would do a great job in Laredo. Del Rio has already experienced a big upsurge from shifting traffic, so something is likely there next year as well, whether through appropriations or otherwise.


30 posted on 09/23/2019 9:40:36 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: montag813

“Translation: TRUMP WON”

He won the main battle of the whole border barrier war this year - he got the most important work funded and into the pipeline. He will need a second term to gain complete operational control of the Southern border.

This year, the President freed up enough money to go on a construction tear, putting in hundreds of miles of the best barrier, where it is needed most. Even if he does not get another dollar in 2020 (unlikely), just finishing the work already funded is by far the biggest, hardest, and most important parts of the job. Even a relative RINO could wrap up the needed barrier construction after this in a four year term, with just the roughly $1.5 billion/year in the baseline budget.


31 posted on 09/23/2019 9:52:59 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: 11th_VA

[[[Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), the top appropriator in the Senate, said it’s possible Congress will spend the next fiscal year passing several stopgap bills, known as continuing resolutions (CRs).]]]

Like they have been doing for the last 20+ years.


32 posted on 09/23/2019 6:07:48 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: digger48
"They’ve been using these continuing resolutions to govern for the last what?... 12 years?"
That's the problem - baseline budgeting.

They take an agency/entity's last years budget, bump it up 3%, 5%, whatever and then pass the whole thing without debate. Trump could say "Don't send me anything without a 2 or 3% cut unless debate on the item is published with a reasonable review time before recorded votes on the record. I'd love to see all the percentage budget increases over population increases under these CRs. Link anyone?

33 posted on 09/24/2019 9:22:58 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54
That's the problem - baseline budgeting.

They take an agency/entity's last years budget, bump it up 3%, 5%, whatever and then pass the whole thing without debate. Trump could say "Don't send me anything without a 2 or 3% cut unless debate on the item is published with a reasonable review time before recorded votes on the record. I'd love to see all the percentage budget increases over population increases under these CRs. Link anyone?


When you have nowhere else to really get started, baseline budget is a great option. Take last year's budget, cut 10%. Repeat.

After a couple years, look at what spending was appropriated in additional bills. Those are the agencies that actually "need" the $$. The rest will have been cut by ~30%, saving money and easily showing you which budgets are ripe for further cuts/elimination.

Note this method doesn't do anything for unConstitutional departments, this just helps find where you can cut stuff that Congress doesn't care about. Combine it with elimination of stuff FedGov isn't supposed to do, and we'll start giving the debt some nice big reductions!
34 posted on 09/24/2019 12:09:36 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: 11th_VA
Wait ... So Congress might not increase spending AT ALL this year ?!?!?!? No tired of winning yet !!!!

Partner, psst, Pelousy will lose is no surprise to all Freepers who follow politics but Pelousy will not be our Speaker at the next session of Congress.

She is not going to agree with the Rat Congress to spend some $$$ on a wall and she will go down in history as the worst of the worst People's Congress Speakers of all time.

35 posted on 09/24/2019 8:29:33 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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