Oil prices were going down and the U.S. is the #1 Exporter of Oil in the world now. We get less than 10% of our oil from the middle east these days.
If you're implication is that the Saudis or the Americans alone or in combination blew up their own facilities to raise the price of oil, I recommend you take off your tinfoil hat and put on a dunce cap.
We do not work backwards from conspiracy theories, we think forward from facts on the ground that can be established.
That said, and having well in mind the Tonkin Gulf episode and "it's a slamdunk," the burden is on the president to prove without much doubt (operative word here is intentionally ambiguous) that the attack came from Iran.
Even if that is established, he must demonstrate that a military strike is the best move. That is equally difficult.
Wait until you start seeing the reports of Iranian soldiers storming the refinery and removing Saudi babies from incubators. Or some sh!t like that. :-P
The same Fake Stream News that is telling you this happened. This is the same Fake Stream News that said President Trump worked with Putin to steal the 2016 election from Hillary.
Why all of a sudden do you believe these known liars?
Ask yourself how come the story is changing? How did Iran get past Saudi and U.S. Air Defenses? We have lot of military there? It seems extremely odd.
Globalists around the world that want a war with Iran. They have been looking for ANY EXCUSE to start a war with Iran. That is fact and not even debated.
Sorry I am not buying the story that Iran did this.
NEWS FLASH.... Our country is broke. We cannot afford another war. We are not the worlds policeman.
Is there a Defense Treaty with Saudi Arabia that we signed and ratified? Im pretty sure there isnt one.
And Congress has not declared a State of War with Iran. That Im certain of.
Iran is obviously a hostile regime and make no secret of their hatred for the U.S. but this simply isnt our fight. The Saudis have billions of dollars in American war fighting equipment and decades of training supplied by the US military.
If Iran is responsible for this attack, and I do not doubt that btw, then let the Saudis respond. Their Air Force is more than capable of blasting Iranian oil facilities to rubble, or at least they should be. If they arent then let Europe and Japan do the heavy lifting for once.
Its their problem theyre dependent on ME oil. Not ours.
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I think so close to the anniversary of 911 we should remember it takes about ten years for us to find out what really happened in regard to just about anything. Twin Peaks. Kent State. Ludlow. War means doing your level best to kill every last one of the enemy. Using the word war to achieve any lesser goal is not only inappropriate but a recipe for disaster that we have repeatedly failed to learn since WWII.
Enlightened1 is not insinuating what you assert. You should reread.
The same global network that tried shooting missiles from N Korea toward Japan are at work in Iran.
Iran has been moving in the same direction of peace as is N Korea by design of the Trump Admin.
To stop the peace movement and keep clandestine funding and contraband flowing, an attack by Iran was scripted.
Yemeni Houthis are called rebels but in reality they are hired assassins, mercenaries that are trained and sophisticated. But they don’t initiate attacks unless they’re paid. They’re being blamed and it’s said that Iran is paying them but Iran doesn’t have the funds. Iranian banking worldwide is frozen with illicit trickles possible but likely not enough to pay the Houthis for a sustained conflict. The funds likely are coming from outside Iran through Iran to make it seem as if it is Iran that is pulling the strings.
Since Las Vegas, the Saudis are under Trump’s thumb. Their funding to global arms merchants has dried up and now their oil supply is ratcheting down. A wedge is needed to drive between the US and SA.
Netanyahu and Trump are discussing a mutual defense pact which could be related as Iran’s blame the Jews movement would be motivated to create a diversion from that development. The Iranian people do not hate Jews but their radical Mullahs will seize any opportunity to increase Jew hatred.
Here’s the racket, war is profitable monetarily and politically. The illicit military arms network outside the US with tentacles inside the US needs funding and the Trump Admin’s gains in the Middle East need pushback. An incident is needed to jumpstart the US arms supply machine into a conflict.
The Iranian power apparatus is cash starved and will consider doing the will of those bringing funds that need Iran to create a diversion. The motive of these globalist actors is to create chaos and draw energy away from current developments, notably gains of the Trump Admin.
The Iranian people who are at core a reasonable people but who are forced to be radicalized by a militant theocracy have been restless against their own governing groups. The Iranian people have a historical mistrust for anything to do with SA. To get their thoughts away from the miserable reality that pervades their daily existence, a conflict with SA will work whether the Iranian people want it or not. Such conflicts quell, suppress any Iranian grassroots unrest. Outside money and a basis to suppress local unrest provide powerful motives for Iranian powerbrokers to follow a globalist script.
The above is connecting dots gleaned from many sources, Breitbart, intermediaries for Houthis satellite news reports, official statements. Conclusions are based on motives and intents, who has real motive, who has capacity to pay mercenaries, etc. and experience with global traders doing business in that regional arena.
“Even if that is established, he must demonstrate that a military strike is the best move. That is equally difficult.”
If the attack can be directly linked to Iran, making the case for a strike is not that difficult.
For 75 years the US has had the de facto policy of ensuring the free flow of oil in the world, ESPECIALLY out of the Persian gulf.
It’s the base logic of the Carter Doctrine.
Oil is the lifeblood of the world economy. And 20-25% of the world’s supply originates in the Gulf.
That does NOT mean we have to overrun Tehran.
But the implication is that we would have to neutralize all their capability to interrupt the flow, as they have demonstrated that if they have the capability, they’ll use it.
The US has an essential, strategic interest in ensuring the free flow to market of Gulf oil. Even if we do not use much of it.