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Fury over the fading benefits of solar power as thousands complain (tr)
Daiily Mail ^ | September 9, 2019 | Amelia Murray

Posted on 09/11/2019 12:53:57 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Fury over the fading benefits of solar power as thousands complain to finance watchdog that glass panels DON'T provide the rewards they were promised

Financial Ombudsman has received 2,000 complaints from home-owners

Barclays put aside millions to compensate those who bought mis-sold panels

Brian Thompson, from Gateshead, took out £10,000 loan to pay for panels

Was told by firm PV Solar UK that the panels would boost his pension

Payments from power panels sent to National Grid not enough to pay loan coast

SNIP

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The lies and broken promises of green energy and solar power.
1 posted on 09/11/2019 12:53:57 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Nelson ha ha.


2 posted on 09/11/2019 12:56:40 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: yesthatjallen

I have a solar powered water pump for my little hummingbird fountain. Cost $11 and works great.

I also have solar powered blinds. Work great in conjunction with a battery so you can open and close when no sun.


3 posted on 09/11/2019 12:56:47 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: yesthatjallen

Arizona it might be helpful if one has the money. But England!!??


4 posted on 09/11/2019 12:56:52 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: yesthatjallen
According to a ruling on the Financial Ombudsman Service's website they were told by MyPlanet that the panels would be self-funded and the loan repayments would be more than offset by 'feed-in tariff income', which pays owners for their electricity.

But this did not happen, and the ombudsman ordered Shawbrook to recalculate the repayments so they would be covered by the savings and pay compensation.

5 posted on 09/11/2019 12:57:21 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

I can’t imagine anyone putting those things on their roof unless they were in a location with very very very high amounts of sunlight.

When you see them in Rochester NY which gets 3 sunny days a year, one can only scratch your head.


6 posted on 09/11/2019 12:57:56 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: yesthatjallen

I work in the power industry. My company put up a huge grid where people can purchase “shares” of the grid to offset their power bill. At the end of the day, though, it costs more than if they didn’t do it.

It’s for people that want to augment their power with solar, but instead of installing solar on their own property, they just own a piece of the big solar farm.

My take: The only thing solar is good for and will EVER pay for itself is when the SHTF and you still have power while your neighbors are out of luck. And that is not enough reason to get it.


7 posted on 09/11/2019 12:58:00 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: yesthatjallen

Unfortunately, people wont realize the truth until their utilities bill skyrockets and they cannot afford to heat their homes.


8 posted on 09/11/2019 1:00:23 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: yesthatjallen

Another dirty little secret is that the rapid advances in efficiency and cost effectiveness of both wind and solar are coming to an end, as they approach their hard physical limits.

A fundamental physics problem. Theoretical limits.

They have a little further to improve, but the large and easy gains are already behind us.

They will likely never be truly cost competitive for most applications, when you look at lifecycle total cost of ownership, without subsidies.

Great for off the grid applications, like sailboats, or outer space.


9 posted on 09/11/2019 1:04:29 PM PDT by BeauBo
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“My take: The only thing solar is good for and will EVER pay for itself is when the SHTF and you still have power while your neighbors are out of luck.”

Isn't that the plan — make conventional energy so expensive that it forces people into Solar and Wind? It makes solar more compelling because conventional energy sources are unavailable or horrendously expensive.

Restricting supply would do this.

1. no to coal.
2. no to nat gas.
3. no to nuclear.
4. no to hydroelectric.

Kind of paints us into a corner.

10 posted on 09/11/2019 1:04:44 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: yesthatjallen
No surprise here.

I knew this whole solar power movement was a fraud when I started hearing from property owners cutting deals to sell tracts of land in upstate New York to developers looking to build new "solar farms" up there.

The area I'm describing has fewer sunny days in an average year than Seattle and Portland.

11 posted on 09/11/2019 1:05:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: 1Old Pro

Damn — you beat me to it. See Post #11. LOL.


12 posted on 09/11/2019 1:06:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: dhs12345
Kind of paints us into a corner.

Better start investing in lumber, log splitters, Vermont Castings, sounds like everyone is going to need a wood burning stove.

13 posted on 09/11/2019 1:06:59 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: yesthatjallen

All part of the Green New Deal.


14 posted on 09/11/2019 1:09:42 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: yesthatjallen

solar to electricity is very inefficient currently. pun absolutely intended.
The best use for solar is south facing triple glazed windows in northern climes and as a pool warmer for the winter in Florida, and by that I mean pumping the pool water and letting it run down a black bottom glazed box to absorb the suns energy directly.


15 posted on 09/11/2019 1:10:06 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: yesthatjallen
There are hundreds of houses in this area (northern Colorado, where there actually is a lot of sun) with solar panels on the roof. That's fine, I don't think it could hurt.

I remember solar panel companies saying one could generate enough power to have a surplus one could sell to the power company.

Haven't seen that in a while.

16 posted on 09/11/2019 1:10:29 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: dhs12345

Gather around the campfire, kids. All 7 billion of you.


17 posted on 09/11/2019 1:12:12 PM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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To: yesthatjallen

Solar panels last about 20 years but degrade over time. They also must be cleaned properly on a regular basis. They are suitable for small single-purpose applications like roadside call boxes, but are horrible as power plants.

Homeowners and taxpayers beware.


18 posted on 09/11/2019 1:14:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: nikos1121

That’s cute. Call us when you run your whole house on solar including your summer AC, your oven, your hairdryer, and all your lighting.


19 posted on 09/11/2019 1:16:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yesthatjallen

In the ‘Green New Deal’, the only thing that’s ‘green’ is your money.........................


20 posted on 09/11/2019 1:17:38 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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