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To: Jack Black

I hope Flynn sues the government and gets a big settlement.

It’s really a tragedy that we cannot hold prosecutors criminally liable for bringing these charges against him.

I also have to ask, where’s trump? He needs to pardon Flynn NOW. Trump needs to do this otherwise no one will work for him in his administration or as a campaign official.


2 posted on 09/10/2019 10:35:36 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: grumpygresh
I also have to ask, where’s trump? He needs to pardon Flynn NOW. Trump needs to do this otherwise no one will work for him in his administration or as a campaign official.

It's painful, but I think it's the right thing for Trump to do. Let the legal process run it's course.

It will be much more devastating to the MSM narrative if the judge throws out the guilty plea, as invalid because of of prosecutorial misconduct. Which it seems may at least be possible now because of the brilliance of Flynn's new attorney.

There is still lots of time to pardon people, but it's better if they get off on their own, which Flynn may.

Maybe this Christmas Trump will hand out some pardons and I hope Popadopolous gets one.

5 posted on 09/10/2019 10:41:37 AM PDT by Jack Black ("If you believe in things that you don't understand then you suffer" - "Superstition",Stevie Wonder)
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To: grumpygresh

NO!! I want the CROOKED, CORRUPT LAWYERS sued....NOT US!! GO SYDNEY!


7 posted on 09/10/2019 10:45:43 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: grumpygresh

Much better for Flynn in the long run if the case gets tossed than a pardon...


8 posted on 09/10/2019 10:46:59 AM PDT by Popman
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To: grumpygresh

I’ll have to politely disagree about granting a pardon, now. I think the Dem’s are salivating over that prospect.

Perhaps some of the legal folks on here can shed some more light on this whole thing. Reason being:

Flynn took a plea, which normally means you’re admitting guilt and you waive your right to appeal, right?

Now that Powell is on the case, and I’m not following this thing regularly, it seems like he was not only railroaded by Mueller/Wiseman, his own defense attorney’s threw him to the wolves.

Powell, it would appear, seems to be uncovering some legitimate misconduct on the part of the DOJ prosecutors and they’re trying to stall or not provide the documentation that Powell wants.

So....if Powell continues to chip away at this and shows that the DOJ took their corruption to a whole new level and it can be shown that they fabricated a case, entrapped him, charged him regardless of what the FBI interviewers said, etc etc....can he withdraw the plea? case be tosses? judge declare some type of prosecutorial misconduct resulting in the charges being dropped?


9 posted on 09/10/2019 10:51:27 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: grumpygresh

NO. Flynn needs to be exonerated. That can only happen in court proceedings


10 posted on 09/10/2019 10:52:02 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsi)
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To: grumpygresh
-- It's really a tragedy that we cannot hold prosecutors criminally liable for bringing these charges against him. --

That's the legal system. Prosecutors have absolute immunity for charging decisions. A.B.S.O.L.U.T.E.

Nifong was sanctioned with criminal contempt, a judge-created crime, not the same as statutory crime, for withholdoing evidence and knowing the accused were innocent but running them through the wringer anyway. One day in jail.

People on the law enforcement side know that they can use the process to punishe people they don;t like, and unless they go really really overboard, there is nothing the accused can do about it. Nearly all malicious prosecution cases fail. The remedy for withholding Brady material is a new trial - which has no play in a uilty plea situation.

11 posted on 09/10/2019 10:52:24 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: grumpygresh
Flynn burned his bridges with Trump when his legal team decided back in 2017 to stop cooperating with Trump's lawyers.

Personally, I have gotten to the point where I have almost stopped reading these reports on this case. By the time Flynn is sentenced it will be nearly TWO YEARS since his guilty plea. This tells me one or more of the following are true:

1. There's a lot more to this story than we've seen in any media reports.

2. Flynn is a moron.

3. Flynn was a Democrat/GOPe mole in the Trump campaign from the start.

20 posted on 09/10/2019 11:47:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: grumpygresh

A pardon would make him look guilty. It’s better if he is exonerated.


31 posted on 09/10/2019 1:13:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Everyone who favors socialism plans on the government taking other people's money, not theirs.)
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To: grumpygresh

He’ll have to wait until the court’s done doing whatever it’s doing. If it’s dismissed, Flynn can sue. If it goes to sentencing, he can appeal the order denying dismissal. If he’s pardoned, that’s the end of suing, and the beginning of another fake scandal with lots of fake outrage. OBSTRUCTION! OBSTRUCTION! SQUAWK!


36 posted on 09/10/2019 3:13:52 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: grumpygresh

A pardon would short circuit the uncovering of this miscarriage of justice.

I am curious though, how Flynn met his new lawyer.


38 posted on 09/10/2019 5:46:44 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: grumpygresh

Pardoning Flynn now would indicate actual guilt - and may also screw up an chances for later lawsuits to recoup what he has already lost in the fight....


40 posted on 09/11/2019 2:32:41 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: grumpygresh

Pardons are for the guilty.

Flynn is not guilty.

Neither are any of the others, in all likelihood...


41 posted on 09/11/2019 4:10:21 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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