Posted on 09/10/2019 9:02:18 AM PDT by janetjanet998
Trump says he fired national security advisor John Bolton
Are are you mad, or are you paid?
It is Sunni terror that is about to destroy the world.
People whining about Iran is like some one being annoyed at a bee whilst there house is on fire.
And, if the CIA agrees with you?
Well, it tells you all you need to know about the CIA.
How are the CIA doing with the Epstein case?
“Get Tulsi Gabbard in”
+1
I knew he was bad news back in the 1990s when he was putting his name on open letters published in the New York Times, calling for the Clinton administration to topple the Milosevic regime in Serbia on behalf of the radical Islamic separatists in Kosovo.
The guy's acted like a Sunni Islamic mole in the U.S. government for years. Hence the only item on my profile page -- which was a comment I posted here on FR when Bolton's name first surfaced in early 2017 as a potential hire for the Trump administration:
I voted for Donald Trump because I was tired of Ivy League globalist pr!cks running this nation’s foreign policy. Anyone who still thinks the invasion of Iraq was a good idea shouldn’t even be allowed to clean the toilets in the White House.
I was completely baffled when Trump hired this jerk who was tailor-made for a senior cabinet post in a JEB BUSH administration.
Honestly Jim,
Do that and bring the troops home and end these wars that are not in the the interest of the American people nor what we call Western Civilization.
Do that, and Trump would win in a landslide and help unite a torn nation that democrats, Obama and others have tried to tear apart.
Then use the second term to really help restore the Republic, and make America again a light unto the world.
Many on here are blaming Bolton with regard to Afghanistan, but Bolton was not running the negotiations with Afghanistan, Pompeo was and the talks were led by a career State Department middle east expert.
The talks failed because just when Trump was being told by Pompeo et al that they were reaching a deal, the Taliban attacked folks in the capital of Kubul, killing a number of Americans.
If anything, Bolton was in a “I told you so position”, and proven right that the negotiations were in fact not leading to a true peace - just a Taliban favorable compromise.
But outside the diplomats, the DOD does not think we should trust the Taliban, nor do they think we need tons more troops. They believe our staying power with current troop levels can wear the Taliban down over time. The top DOD position is in the middle of a “diplomatic” solution and total war. I think Bolton was in agreement with the DOD.
Remember, we did not annihilate the Soviets in our 40+ year contest with them - we wore them down. The same can be true with the Mullahs of Tehran, NK and the Taliban.
mad or paid both. I have my own business. Mad at our weak indifferent leadership and Obama’s betrayal. Trump turning the other cheek when he should have destroyed their Navy last month. Explain why you are not mad.
sad to see someone turn blind eye to the biggest threat in the world today outside of islam and Iran will spread that too.
When they lob an ICBM with a nuke you might wake up. Pity you can’t see the development of the weapons and the ongoing threats as real danger., I choose to not wait and i supported attacking Iran when bush went into the wrong country.
“The right answer is a unilateral, and complete withdraw of US forces from Afghanistan.”
Is that the best we have to offer, and honor, all whose lives we already lost there?
We already know what such a “victory” (Vietnam “peace”) did to the U.S. military (demoralized), and is that what we need right now, with all the other hot spots in the world and growing threats from China??
We neither have to greatly up our game in Afghanistan, or leave it to the Taliban. Time is on our side, as long as we remind the Taliban of that.
“win it and get out “
LOL. Yeah, ok.
Everyone is until the first shots are fired.
Mexico is slightly different. The cartels run the border, and there is active government support for the invasion. It’s about the only intervention I support right now. Put a 10 mile buffer zone on the south side of the border. Now...there probably needs to be a discussion about why so many Mexicans can no longer find work in Mexico. And a similar discussion about central America.
The Taliban are not a regime to be toppled. They are the ones trying to topple the elected government of Afghanistan. At least get your metaphors right.
“Trump turning the other cheek when he should have destroyed their Navy last month”
Another warrior from the saftey of their basement office.
“Is that the best we have to offer, and honor, all whose lives we already lost there?”
Yes.
Unless you want even more American blood to soak that hellhole.
I say not another drop. As do all American soldiers there now, and all who have been there.
They will be the very first to celebrate.
But you’d know that if you knew any of them.
I think Trump’s mistake was thinking Pompeo and his negotiator could get a compromise with the Taliban that the Afghan people and the American people would accept.
The issue is not a difference between a deal, ANY deal, with the Taliban or waging total war there. The issue is staying the course and wearing them down, as we did the Soviets.
By the way, I don’t think campaign promises are synonymous with doing what is right. Sometimes even politicians have to admit their estimation of things before they came into office differ from the reality they see from the perspective of being in command. I am asking if Trump is up to THAT challenge; if he is big enough to admit now that a different course from what he expected is needed. A course that is neither WWII in Afghanistan, or giving Afghanistan to the Taliban.
strange, maybe you will allow me an opinion instead of talked out of the side of your neck when you find out who the F you re talking to. The ignorance of the internet commentator.
When they have the bomb you will be down on your knees shaking wondering why you were so ignorant in 2019. You explain to your kids, I already have with mine.
“The issue is staying the course and wearing them down, as we did the Soviets.”
“We” aren’t doing anything. You arent the one there doing one tour or 2 or 6 there and getting shot at for no point. You are enjoying life at home, while casually peeking in on the 18 year “course” we need to stay on.
The mission was to get Bin Laden. That was done 10 years ago.
Now you want to stay there for 10 more....to do what?
“A course that is neither WWII in Afghanistan, or giving Afghanistan to the Taliban.”
Basically Vietnam with less good reasons.
Have you ever lost anyone, any buddies, in war? Do you know what honor means to them? Do you know why they try so hard to rescue their own? Do you know the investment our troops have already made? Can you with all honesty tell them to “just suck it up” your loss of life was not worth the effort, we are throwing in the towel and giving the country to the Taliban”?
With your sentiments prevailing our military troops will experience the demoralizing “Vietnam syndrome” all over again, and at a time we cannot afford that.
LOL!
So destroying their navy will stop them from getting nukes..ok.
“when you find out who the F you re talking to..”
Lol! Thankfully no one with any say in foreign policy beyond their ego.
Bye Bye to the Walrus....
The Globalists/Neocons are going to have a conniption fit.
Man they love endless wars and spending our Republic money into oblivion debt to destroy our economy.
Our current “unfounded” liabilities is over 125 Trillion dollars and sky rocketing. For anyone that does not understand, this is money we owe that we have not paid. It is at the moment 125 Trillion dollars! Compare that to how much congress spends in an annual budget (4 Trillion) How are we ever going to get out of this mess?
Here is the link. (Look at the second from bottom right row in red)
“The mission was to get Bin Laden. That was done 10 years ago.”
Who ever said that was all the invasion of Afghanistan was to achieve? No one.
The fact is the invasion was directed at the Taliban as well because their IDEOLOGY would not let them turn their friend Bin Laden over to us. They invested in being our enemy before we ever entered Afghanistan.
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