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To: george76
I was attempting to explain to a person today the concept of thermodynamics. Had to explain that the energy density of wind and solar cannot sustain a modern society and that taking fossil fuels and using them to charge batteries is worse than just using fossil fuels to power your car.
11 posted on 09/04/2019 7:56:40 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: LukeL

The laws of physics and economics are demanding and unforgiving, and trend toward self-enforcement, the folly of men notwithstanding.


17 posted on 09/04/2019 7:59:13 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: LukeL

Building one wind turbine requires 900 tons of steel, 2,500 tons of concrete and 45 tons of plastic.

A single electric-car battery weighs about 1,000 pounds. Fabricating one requires digging up, moving and processing more than 500,000 pounds of raw materials somewhere on the planet.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3769621/posts


22 posted on 09/04/2019 8:05:30 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: LukeL

Good luck with that fool’s errand!

“Yeah, but I don’t care what all your engineering calcs and lifecycle cost analyses show! We need to go Green, go Renewable!”


50 posted on 09/04/2019 8:50:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: LukeL

I had a chem professor who worked for dupont. He could have written the three equations and showed the truth. However, truth has never had much of an impact on the world.
I did not learn his level of chem.. but he was a great and compassionate prof.
I am to the point now of understanding truth doesnt matter I often ask, if I could prove X using your standard (not those heretical, unachievable standards) would you listen?
99 percent of the people I ask are closed to any idea, but theeir own.


74 posted on 09/05/2019 4:43:44 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: LukeL

“that taking fossil fuels and using them to charge batteries is worse than just using fossil fuels to power your car.”

AND...the corn used to dilute gas is a performance reduction also....ANYONE recall the riots in Mexico when corn prices jumped cuz of our stupidity re ethanol ??


92 posted on 09/05/2019 9:40:19 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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