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Cornered Boris Johnson suffers triple Commons defeat: Parliament Blocks Snap Election Bid
The Guardian ^ | 09/04/2019

Posted on 09/04/2019 6:29:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Farcesensitive

Thanks for the explanation!


21 posted on 09/04/2019 7:14:58 PM PDT by livius
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To: NorseViking

Agree the Brits did this to themselves and needed no help from the EU to import muslim invaders.


22 posted on 09/04/2019 7:18:42 PM PDT by JerryBlackwell (some animals are more equal than others)
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To: StAnDeliver

The Queen always has and always will do what her current prime minister advises. She did it with Thatcher, with Blair and will do with Johnson


23 posted on 09/04/2019 9:03:08 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: PGR88

1. The rest of the EU cannot do that. Extensions have to be requested by the country invoking article 50. The UK asked twice for an extension and got it.

2. The other 27 countries in the EU now want the UK out. They are too much of a drama queen to keep their membership. Better out is the eu opinion.

3. The Oct 31 deadline can only be extended by the UK by specifically amending their law and specifically requesting it.

The UK will crash out on October 31. That is still 90% sure


24 posted on 09/04/2019 9:08:25 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: elcid1970

The muslims in the UK were imported by the UK from their ex colonies and didn’t come from the continent.

The Muslim problem continues no matter the Brexit outcome


25 posted on 09/04/2019 9:10:09 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Farcesensitive

Bojo can also ignore the no deal bill and just delay before the crash out October 31


26 posted on 09/04/2019 9:12:48 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The lords would need to filibuster only 120 hours using a tag team. Surely they can do this and prevent corwyn from putting the monarchy at risk of a bremainer revenge mob? But It sounds as if corwyn and co. suspect the bill will never get that far. More kabuki?


27 posted on 09/04/2019 9:48:14 PM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks SeekAndFind.

28 posted on 09/04/2019 11:12:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Farcesensitive

Gobbledygook.

99% of yankees have no idea what you just said.


29 posted on 09/04/2019 11:36:06 PM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

The short version is that the lords could have killed the bill with a filibuster and Johnson can kill it by rrefusig to send it to the queen.


30 posted on 09/04/2019 11:38:40 PM PDT by Farcesensitive
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To: Farcesensitive

Strangely i do not see any news organizations covering the possibilty that johnson can kill the bill all by himself...


31 posted on 09/05/2019 12:45:59 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: SteveH

Here is one place that indicates although somewhat vauely that the government can ignore the bill. Hovever it seems to be imho sftpedalled presuming it is the route that bojo will actualy choose...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46393399


32 posted on 09/05/2019 1:01:54 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: allendale

The remoaners haven’t won. Boris knows exactly what he is doing. He knows that in order to win a general election he must force the remoaners in his party and out of it to show their hands. By defying a three line whip to vote against the bill, he has an excuse to purge the irreconcilable remoaners from the party and by forcing the opposition to vote down a snap election so that they can pass their disgraceful sabotage bill without facing an electoral mandate for it first he can show the voters that it is they who are thwarting Brexit and that he will need that majority mandate to see it through, thus nullifying the threat from the brexit party. The opposition may well get their sabotage bill through parliament, but they will lose the election and he will have the mandate he needs to destroy he remoaner cause once and for all.


33 posted on 09/05/2019 1:26:29 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Dave W

She can only veto bills on the advice of her prime minister and she has never done so. Lasttime it happened was in 1708 when Queen Anne vetoed a Scottish militia bill on the advice of hr ministers. The Queen will do whatver Boris instructs her to. It is the Prime Minister who excercises the Queens powers and the Royal Prerogative. The Queen is an expert on the British constitution and will give her PM the benefit of her expertise. It is, paradoxically, the Queen who will advise, and the Prime Minister who makes the decision.


34 posted on 09/05/2019 1:33:19 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Farcesensitive
Johnson can kill it by rrefusig to send it to the queen.

Okay, but the article also says there's a mechanism whereby Parliament can block the PM from doing that.

Do you think they will?

35 posted on 09/05/2019 2:01:15 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Farcesensitive

Thank you for posting this. For Americans this is confusing. At least Oliver Cromwell hasn’t shown up.


36 posted on 09/05/2019 2:52:19 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Farcesensitive

“The opposition are stuffed. The Remainers are stuffed. The EU is stuffed.”

Boris Johnson, to achieve British independence from Brussels, will have to do it in a dramatic, even heroic political struggle.

All the more glory.

That is why men fight bulls.


37 posted on 09/05/2019 5:38:02 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: CondorFlight

“The elites are in revolt against the people” all over the world.


38 posted on 09/05/2019 5:55:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Farcesensitive

Thanks for that very informative post!


39 posted on 09/05/2019 6:24:15 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boris needs to re-open the Tower of London


40 posted on 09/05/2019 6:53:40 AM PDT by montag813
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