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IBM fired up to 100,000 older employees to attract millennial workers, says lawsuit
BigThink ^ | Aug 2 2019 | Stephen Johnson

Posted on 08/30/2019 12:35:43 PM PDT by rintintin

IBM has been accused of firing thousands of older employees over the past few years as part of a rebranding strategy to appeal to millennial workers.

Some former employees have filed lawsuits against IBM. In one civil case, former VP of Human Resources Alan Wild said IBM had "laid off 50,000 to 100,000 employees in just the last several years" in order to make itself seem like "[a] cool, trendy organization," like Google or Amazon, and not like "an old fuddy duddy organization." These statements were obtained court document filed Tuesday in Texas

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To: Meatspace
IBM should be free to fife and hire staff without snowflakes filing lawsuits and the government getting involved.

Get over it!

Sure, say that to companies that won’t hire blacks and see how far you get.

In IT, the older experienced workers are being replaced by younger foreign H1B workers. It isn’t that they are just older, they are mostly white and mostly male. The same is true for women, there just happens to be less of them. As Americans we have a right to claim age discrimination.

61 posted on 08/30/2019 2:21:45 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: ThornJ56

Oh please, these big tech companies aren’t replacing us older IT workers with American young people, they are replacing us with H1B foreign employees and their wives as well, next comes a green card and babies born here to become citizens.


62 posted on 08/30/2019 2:24:15 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: snippy_about_it

[In IT, the older experienced workers are being replaced by younger foreign H1B workers]

That is correct. And there are other Americans, frankly, that will happily step over your dead body if they can make money on it. Until the alligator eats them last, or so they hope.

Same with illegal invaders. While Boosh and brudda Jeb! enjoy their millions they’ll happily pontificate about jobs that Americans refuse to do.

Same with their Democrat besties.


63 posted on 08/30/2019 2:44:28 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Cobra64

...and get 1/10 the work.


64 posted on 08/30/2019 2:48:35 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: dfwgator
"This is one of the reasons why it would be good to decouple health insurance from employment."

Hmmm... I'm not at all sure I agree with that.. The only thing I think works is a free and open marketplace.. But you gota make sure nobody is in cahoots with one another... If the markets are rigged it can't work....

65 posted on 08/30/2019 3:04:33 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Cobra64

And don’t forget the AWESOME work ethics of the millennial snowflakes. If nothing else, it would be like working at Comedy Central to be employed there and observe the children.


66 posted on 08/30/2019 3:07:56 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." A. Lincoln)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“IIRC a case regarding older workers being laid off/fired to make way for lower paid replacements was,some years ago,decided by SCOTUS in favor of the company doing the firing.”

You’re right. My former employer, a Fortune 100 company, was awaiting the outcome of that case before deciding to lay off hundreds of long-term, 50+ year-old employees (me included). Fortunately I was able to retire at that point.


67 posted on 08/30/2019 3:13:22 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Cobra64

Hey the giants have been doing this for years ATT started in the 90’s - did away with pensions - started with pittance 401k handouts! Offering few $100k+ for 30 yrs service please!


68 posted on 08/30/2019 3:15:28 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: DesertRhino

Exactly. Corporations changed the equation, not the employees.


69 posted on 08/30/2019 3:15:38 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Cobra64

Obama care gave them another chance to age discriminate to kick off 65+ age to other ins providers off of employee ins plans in 2009...

companies constantly age discriminate 55+ and old and who gives a SH*T - no one!


70 posted on 08/30/2019 3:18:12 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: rintintin

How many H1-B visa holders were there under the millenials?


71 posted on 08/30/2019 3:20:40 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: right way right

reply to:

The Obamacare scare caused this across a whole lot of industries.

Obamanation care.

ABSO - DAMN - LUTELY agree!


72 posted on 08/30/2019 3:21:26 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: dfwgator

reply to: Especially if said older worker is a white male.

YOU ARE CORRECT!


73 posted on 08/30/2019 3:22:43 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: rintintin
and with them, the collective corporate memory...
74 posted on 08/30/2019 3:25:40 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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To: unread
.. If the markets are rigged it can't work....

That pretty much goes for anything.

But my view is that the fewer resources a company needs to have focused on non-core aspects of its' business, the better. And think how many company resources are devoted just to insure their employees, that could be better applied elsewhere.

75 posted on 08/30/2019 3:26:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rintintin

One issue a young relative tells me is that in both his current and former work places the older guys are entrenched in legacy software strongholds and fight tooth and nail against adopting new tech that will improve productivity as it would end their importance in being the only ones who know how to keep things running at the legacy level.


76 posted on 08/30/2019 3:29:55 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: JudgemAll

you are too old to be a politician past age 65! Except TRUMP who is age factor excused till he dies!

And term limited - after initial run two in house, after initial run one more in senate.


77 posted on 08/30/2019 3:30:37 PM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: Rebelbase

I’ve seen that too. Which is why I’m constantly learning the new technologies, and am known as the “go to guy” for new technologies. That’s very important.

I prominently display the latest technical books in my cube for a reason.


78 posted on 08/30/2019 3:31:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

And think how many company resources are devoted just to insure their employees, that could be better applied elsewhere. “

Yes I’m starting to think that forcing employers to be our health care providers is a big drag on employment - and a big deterrent to little guys starting up businesses

If I understand correctly, Israel has govt health care ( with private options). Has anyone heard that it’s not working?


79 posted on 08/30/2019 3:34:47 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: snippy_about_it

The government should never dictate who a company hires or fires.


80 posted on 08/30/2019 3:37:30 PM PDT by Meatspace
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