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IBM fired up to 100,000 older employees to attract millennial workers, says lawsuit
BigThink ^ | Aug 2 2019 | Stephen Johnson

Posted on 08/30/2019 12:35:43 PM PDT by rintintin

IBM has been accused of firing thousands of older employees over the past few years as part of a rebranding strategy to appeal to millennial workers.

Some former employees have filed lawsuits against IBM. In one civil case, former VP of Human Resources Alan Wild said IBM had "laid off 50,000 to 100,000 employees in just the last several years" in order to make itself seem like "[a] cool, trendy organization," like Google or Amazon, and not like "an old fuddy duddy organization." These statements were obtained court document filed Tuesday in Texas

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: ibm
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To: SaveFerris

Im older and recently changed jobs and honestly i have to say the foreign/H1B type workers mostly work a hell of a lot harder and are far friendlier, concerned with the quality of thier work, and honest than the native born Americans I most recently worked with


101 posted on 08/30/2019 5:04:37 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: bgill

Verizon did it.


102 posted on 08/30/2019 5:05:07 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I know!:) All I can do is laugh anymore!


103 posted on 08/30/2019 5:16:00 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side...)
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To: Manuel OKelley

I’ve worked with both. I can tell you the H1-B’s take care of each other more than Americans do. Much more.

I’ve worked with goods ones, on both sides.


104 posted on 08/30/2019 5:23:30 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Zathras

I spent thirty years there. Fortunately most of them were while Bill and Dave were still around. My favorite Carly line...”Some of us won’t be here to continue the journey...” F’n b**ch.


105 posted on 08/30/2019 5:40:52 PM PDT by printhead (I need a new tagline. Happy days are here again.)
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To: printhead

[My favorite Carly line...”Some of us won’t be here to continue the journey...”]

Did she blow a kiss, too? That’s all I’m going to type lest I type __________________________________________ and ______________________.


106 posted on 08/30/2019 5:45:29 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: dfwgator

I’m a White Male in electrical engineering work.
I’m considering opening a business as a contractor, but I’ll have the owner be my minority SIL.
I recently was pulled into an upper level business meeting at my work. Were weren’t winning contracts because we weren’t subbing enough work out to minority owned businesses.


107 posted on 08/30/2019 5:51:07 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: rintintin
I doubt my 20 something protege would happier if I weren't around. (I'm 72.)

ML/NJ

108 posted on 08/30/2019 5:58:08 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Cobra64
We tried hiring like that for my current project. Most of those hired have been let go. Poor work ethic and product. My 63 year old hide still puts in 55 to 70 hours a week for a 40 hour paycheck and my productivity is 10x over the cheap hires.

I'm not real surprised to hear this news about IBM. It's not a place I would want to work.

109 posted on 08/30/2019 6:36:21 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: dfwgator
I just turned 63 on Monday. I'm in the middle of another death march to rescue a project. That has been my "MO" for nearly 40 years. Software SWAT team. In two years, the enormously expensive company healthcare insurance ($13k annual premiums, $6.9k deductibles) will be withdrawn. I'll be forced onto Medicare. My wife just turned into a Type 1 diabetic this year and added a DKA with a severe seizure at 2:40 AM Monday morning. The diabetic support/supplies is very expensive. Expenses we didn't have prior to December 2018. When I lose my insurance to Medicare, it probably takes away coverage for her too.
110 posted on 08/30/2019 6:43:58 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: snippy_about_it

They’re called Indian Business Machines for a reason. ;-)


111 posted on 08/30/2019 6:47:26 PM PDT by bobcat62
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To: BobL

Thanks for the mention BobL.


112 posted on 08/30/2019 7:07:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Myrddin

I was a JDEdwards software consultant working on an IBM PC DRM project in Research Triangle Park, NC... big campus. Aside from the IBMers working with us on the project, the rest were middle aged empty suits. Hundreds of offices filled with personnel doing nothing but drinking coffee and reading newspapers.


113 posted on 08/30/2019 7:17:39 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: rintintin

IBM fired tons of experienced employees during all the periodic bloodlettings that I recall.

Our family had a consulting business and were VARs for a time. VAR reltionship was pushed as a way to offload employees.

The IBMers had a hard time taking direction from the non IBMers IIRC

In the eighties we had a hard time getting house and other property loans because of consultant status. Banks wanted that big name company as employer.

In the early 90s there was another purge as the economy tanked and all the banks were thrilled to get consultants to loan money to for as one explained, you folks have many income streams, and we did.


114 posted on 08/30/2019 7:19:41 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: _Jim

I remember when the first IBM Portable came out.

A PC on wheels with a lil screen and it rolled like a suitcase


115 posted on 08/30/2019 7:23:44 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Myrddin

Trump administration has made an executive decision to allow professional organizations to give health insurance to members. These will be new group plans. I don’t know all the details but it is a great new opportunity.


116 posted on 08/30/2019 7:25:05 PM PDT by DazedVet (Self esteem cannot be taught in school but comes from actual achievement.)
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To: bigbob

Raytheon did that under Obama. Said that if you want a raise beyond rate of inflation, become a diversity champion and agree to diversity goals on your performance review. Attend diversity lectures where you’re told, literally, all men are sexist, all whites are racist and so forth.
They saw much higher attrition among older white guys than the normal rate of retirement would cause.
HR celebrated it. They said it opened up opportunities for diverse promotions and hiring, and it would change the culture of the organization for the better.
Liberal bigots.


117 posted on 08/30/2019 7:37:18 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: rintintin

A job at IBM used to be for life.


118 posted on 08/30/2019 9:14:38 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: dfwgator

#8 Yes. More older people would stay employed.


119 posted on 08/30/2019 11:54:31 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Sequoyah101

#42 I heard my manager on a call to his boss saying my name and that I had lot of vacation.... Forward a year or so and the manager boss leaves or is pushed out by the newer bigger boss. Manager worried they may be next. I get paid less then either so may last longer.


120 posted on 08/31/2019 12:27:01 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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