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State Says Company That Installed Denver Red Light Cameras Was Unlicensed
CBS4 ^ | August 29, 2019 | Brian Maass and Kati Weis

Posted on 08/30/2019 7:51:03 AM PDT by george76

Cease and Desist Order Issued.

DENVER – The company that designed and installed red light cameras at four Denver intersections beginning in 2008 was not properly licensed according to state authorities and has been ordered to “cease and desist” such operations in Colorado. Colorado’s state board of licensure for architects, professional engineers, and professional land surveyors issued the order Aug. 16, ordering Redflex Traffic Systems to “cease and desist the unlicensed practice of engineering.”

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Redflex was never licensed to practice engineering in Colorado, yet “engaged in the unlicensed practice of engineering when (Redflex) provided professional services to the City and County of Denver” by designing and installing red light cameras at four intersections.

What Redflex did, according to the state, “constitutes the unlicensed practice of engineering.”

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The cameras have generated millions of dollars in ticket revenue since 2008. Anyone caught by the cameras is subject to a $75 ticket.

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Denver attorney Danny Foster said.. those tickets are still likely valid as there is no city code that specifies whoever installed the cameras had to be an engineer to insure the tickets are valid...

“I don’t think the fact there is a cease and desist order was issued is going to change the validity of these tickets.

(Excerpt) Read more at denver.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Florida; US: Kentucky; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cameras; denver; redflex; redlight; redlightcameras; sixthamendment
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1 posted on 08/30/2019 7:51:03 AM PDT by george76
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Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


2 posted on 08/30/2019 7:51:47 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Bonus Question: Are red light cameras purchased by the city because they are concerned for your safety or are they another part of their revenue enhancement program?


3 posted on 08/30/2019 7:56:17 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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I don’t think the fact there is a cease and desist order was issued is going to change the validity of these tickets.

Actually all persons involved should be Thrown in Prison for this Extortion Scheme and running a Criminal Enterprise. All tickets dismissed, and FIRE the Entire Police Force for being Stupid enough to go along with the Criminal Enterprise.


4 posted on 08/30/2019 7:57:42 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: george76

We must make sure money is channeled to connected political cronies!


5 posted on 08/30/2019 7:59:44 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: george76

In Tennessee you cannot be forced to pay for a red light ticket. They can send you official looking letters (always by first class mail so they can never prove you received a notice) with threatening sounding language, but there isn’t a thing they can do if you don’t pay but send you another letter.


6 posted on 08/30/2019 8:06:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where does it say in the Constitution anyone is entitled to the property another has labored for?)
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To: BipolarBob

You know the answer. Money. No matter what they tell you, it’s money.


7 posted on 08/30/2019 8:08:26 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where does it say in the Constitution anyone is entitled to the property another has labored for?)
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To: BipolarBob

Revenue. I noticed the last few times I visited the Chicago megalopolis, that most of the lights have a fairly long yellow. You sort of get used to how long they last. But I think they are trying to intentionally lull you into a certain expectation that is wrong.

I say that because, what I noticed was that some lights are very short compared to all the others. Sure, they are the “three second minimum” (yes, I timed one). But the key is this: Every single short light was a red light camera enforced light.

So yes, they are OBVIOUSLY revenue sources.

In my state of Kentucky we have no cameras. But what happens is there is a two or three second “all lights red” period when they switch. Much safer than just slapping up cameras for fun and profit.


8 posted on 08/30/2019 8:12:15 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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Denver attorney Danny Foster said.. those tickets are still likely valid as there is no city code that specifies whoever installed the cameras had to be an engineer to insure the tickets are valid...

"I don’t think the fact there is a cease and desist order was issued is going to change the validity of these tickets."

Hey, Danny Boy -- You've got a much bigger problem than the validity of the ticket revenue on your hands.

If you had traffic signals installed by a company that wasn't licensed to practice in the state of Colorado, I'd say you should now have an entire office filled with staff members combing through the city's motor vehicle crash records to see how many of these crashes occurred at the intersections where those signals were installed ... because you're soon going to have about 10,000 personal injury attorney's filing about a billion dollars worth of lawsuits in the next 48 hours against the City of Denver, Redflex, and probably you as well.

9 posted on 08/30/2019 8:33:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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Video: The Red-Light Camera Rip-Off: Rigged Yellow Lights

- from the National Motorists Association
10 posted on 08/30/2019 8:49:59 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: george76

Redflex was never licensed to practice engineering in Colorado, yet “engaged in the unlicensed practice of engineering when (Redflex) provided professional services to the City and County of Denver” by designing and installing red light cameras at four intersections.

What Redflex did, according to the state, “constitutes the unlicensed practice of engineering.”
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Well, Heck.

I’ve been practicing engineering, unlicensed, all my life.


11 posted on 08/30/2019 8:59:05 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/S liberally (oops) applied to all posts.)
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To: george76
Redflex was never licensed to practice engineering in Colorado, yet “engaged in the unlicensed practice of engineering when (Redflex) provided professional services to the City and County of Denver” by designing and installing red light cameras at four intersections.

What Redflex did, according to the state, “constitutes the unlicensed practice of engineering.”

If Redflex needs a new CEO I can think of no better candidate - would match the corporate culture!


12 posted on 08/30/2019 9:04:16 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Hillary Clinton: Just like Joe with only half the dementia.)
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I told my local council member (a Democrat) to vote against the bill authorizing red light cameras because “these things are the veritable touchstone of public corruption”.

To my surprise and delight she voted against them.

The other jackals, hungry for the revenue, voted yea.


13 posted on 08/30/2019 9:04:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Comb-ie needs a new hairstylist, that color looks awful.


14 posted on 08/30/2019 9:06:22 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Blood of Tyrants
In Tennessee you cannot be forced to pay for a red light ticket. They can send you official looking letters (always by first class mail so they can never prove you received a notice) with threatening sounding language, but there isn’t a thing they can do if you don’t pay but send you another letter.

Not exactly true. They report unpaid tickets as unpaid bills to the credit bureaus. Not a big deal if you don't mind your credit score going down.

15 posted on 08/30/2019 9:08:05 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Crusher138

Not in Tennessee. They wrote the law so that they can’t legally report it.


16 posted on 08/30/2019 9:20:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where does it say in the Constitution anyone is entitled to the property another has labored for?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Ultimately these things always crash and burn against the Sixth Amendment right to confront your accuser. There is no way to put a camera on the stand so you can cross-examine it.

They rely on ignorance, or people just paying the fine rather than going through the hassle.


17 posted on 08/30/2019 9:25:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: \/\/ayne

Bttt


18 posted on 08/30/2019 10:08:35 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Not in Tennessee. They wrote the law so that they can’t legally report it.

After having worked with RedFlex (they are a$$wipes) I am surprised they accepted that stipulation. Reporting it as bad debt is the only recourse they have.

19 posted on 08/30/2019 10:53:25 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: george76

The cameras have generated millions of dollars in ticket revenue since 2008. Anyone caught by the cameras is subject to a $75 ticket.
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They never said the ticket to “anyone”. They send the ticket to the owner of the license plate. They don’t know for sure who was driving. Completely unconstitutional.


20 posted on 08/30/2019 12:16:03 PM PDT by shelterguy
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