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Here’s why eliminating the illegal drug trade will be impossible: $150 billion a year
The National Sentinel ^ | 8/21/19 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 08/21/2019 10:37:29 AM PDT by SleeperCatcher

A new study by the non-partisan RAND Corporation helps explain why it’s going to be difficult, if not impossible, to ever stop the illicit drug trade: It’s worth tens of billions of dollars per year.

Researchers at the think tank wrote in their report that illegal narcotics generate some $150 billion annually, or as much as the amusement and gambling industry generated in 2016.

The exhaustive analysis of drug use and spending data contained in the report indicates that there are about 30 million chronic drug users in the U.S. alone as of 2016, with major increases in the number of methamphetamine, marijuana, and heroin users.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenationalsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: buildthefence; cartels; daca; dreamact; dreamers; drugtrade; liberaltarians; libertarians; losertarians; medicalmarijuana; money; smuggling; wod
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To: sciencewriter86

But it would work.
We don’t seem to have the stomach for anything that works these days.


41 posted on 08/21/2019 12:27:11 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: SleeperCatcher; All
We could stop the drug trade. The issue is, the deterrence to drug trafficking is very painful, bloody, and not very pretty.

The PC crowd would say, “That’s not who we are.”

I say, “Harsh realities require harsh solutions.”

42 posted on 08/21/2019 12:27:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: chris37; All
Drug trade in prison can be stopped. Anyone found with drugs on his person gets marched down the hall to the electric chair.

Then ask, “Who’s next?”

This crap would stop in a heartbeat.

43 posted on 08/21/2019 12:30:07 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: sciencewriter86
what the effective war on drugs will require: firing squads, a nation wide determination to use mortal force to control addicts and terminate them with extreme prejudice.

I don’t think we have the stomach for this.

And thank God for that.

44 posted on 08/21/2019 12:38:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Cottonpatch
Get a big building and put piles of heron, cocaine, marijuana down. Let people come in and use all they want. The drug users will all kill themselves right there...

No lethal dose of marijuana has been established for humans - in fact, they haven't even been able to kill lab animals larger than rats with THC.

45 posted on 08/21/2019 12:40:42 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Cobra64
I say, “Harsh realities require harsh solutions.”

If the harsh reality is hundreds of billions of dollars going to violent criminals, the non-harsh solution is legalization.

46 posted on 08/21/2019 12:42:44 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Well... ok.


47 posted on 08/21/2019 12:45:49 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: dp0622
narcotics generate some $150 billion annually

A mere pittance compared to "BIG PHARMA."

48 posted on 08/21/2019 1:44:08 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor

Big Pharma would kill a person interfering with their profits just as quickly as a street dealer would.


49 posted on 08/21/2019 1:49:26 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: SleeperCatcher

50 posted on 08/21/2019 1:50:02 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Repent and Believe

Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. I agree with you and add that immorality should not be weaponized the state. I believe drunkenness or high is a sin but I do not believe it should be illegal. However being drunk or high can lead to much more immorality and if it results in criminal acts they should be prosecuted. Perhaps the use of alcohol or drugs should be a sentence enhancement like gun use during a crime.


51 posted on 08/21/2019 2:33:42 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: SleeperCatcher

I am old enough to remember that during the 30’s & 40’s, only certain segments of USA population were considered drug users....entertainers & musicians come to mind.

Today, the young & uncontrolled young segment of the USA are not going to school-—have no father influence in the household—see only that “MAMA can make more money from welfare by having more babies’-—and that selling drugs on the streets doesn’t take a GED or high school diploma. MAMA only needs that male to donate the sperm-—Welfare of all kinds takes over from there. Taxpayers are blackmailed into paying more & more $$$$$ of all kinds of taxes to ‘keep the wolves away from their doors’.

At extremely young ages, they are out & away from the eyes of the rest of the family dealing & selling drugs on the streets they have never paid for & WILL NEVER pay for. Their transgressions are considered “juvenile’ in nature, and those records are sealed until they turn 18 & then they develop their new set of records that often is very long & qu9ite varied.

They make large parts of our society spaces UNSAFE to even be in during daytime hours. They are feral in their nature & refuse to listen to anything sensible.

The politicians never wanted to GRASP that the inflow of drugs to this country would only get worse & worse.

“Legalizing” Marijuana in another step in the WRONG direction. IF I am an employer-—I now cannot even drug test a prospective employee BEFORE I hire them in Nevada. Sure to keep many other companies from coming into this state. It is completely NUTS. ONLY AFTER I have actually hired a person & ONLY AFTER I SUSPECT that drugs may be a problem can I do an actual drug test. Then-—HOW do I remove this person from the myriad of liabilities they represent to my investment & the company that others who are clean depend on for a job??? What does this new policy from the DEMOCRAT LEGISLATURE do to my liability insurance??? My workmen’s comp insurance??? Such a policy is a job killer,IMO.

The high value of the drugs being used in this country is a lure that the young, UNEDUCATED, & Impressionable ferals see as the ONLY path they can follow. When they are gunned down for their law-breaking activities, then the gnashing of teeth & wailing of mothers & grandmothers assails our ears.

People still are thinking that Michael Brown NEVER stole from that Asian shopkeeper & that the video showing him doing so was a fake. Trayvon Martin was ‘just a sweet kid out on a rainy night who had been caught with stolen goods in his backpack at school....but the “parents” involved refuse to take ANY level of responsibility for the actions of their kids. Funny how complicit the media has become over this problem. They only showed pics of Trayvon at about age 14-—NOT the pics of him when he was killed & which had him flashing gang signs openly & defiantly.

I am totally OUT of sympathy.

We are far less safe IN OUR OWN RESIDENCES today than we were during the American Revolution. The ferals who will attack us in the sanctuaries we have worked hard to provide for ourselves & our families then get swept up into & THRU the ‘revolving door’ system called JUSTICE today. The tornadoes caused by the velocity of those revolving doors need to be reported on the weather channel.

The current crop of Democrat Presidential candidates want to open the prison doors & release even more of them into the communities. At the same time, they wish to take all weapons we MIGHT have at hand to defend ourselves. Telling me that I ONLY have the right to defend MY PERSON & NOT MY PROPERTY is another game that can only lead to more working Americans being harmed or killed by the feral army we have spent over 60 years & over $21 TRILLION to support & raise.

IF you think that I will NOT defend what I have worked hard to own-—you are sadly mistaken. I won’t try to talk you out of being on MY PROPERTY illegally. Don’t even try. When you cross the gate opening past the NO TRESPASSING sign, you re MY TARGET.

Further-—even the most lowly working taxpayer in the country knows how hard they have worked for whatever they have. A Politician who supports the working taxpayer & wants to put the criminals into jail/prison for a long & longer time is the one I will vote for. Pretty sure I am NOT alone in that thought.

Crime is already out of control in the USA & many Dems want to open up the prison doors & turn the criminals loose-—all across the country.

Funny how so many of those politicians live behind gated & guards & doormen, & bodyguards isn’t it????

As long as politicians of all stripes treat the drug & criminal segments of our society with a cavalier attitude & pretend that it isn’t really happening, they are only showing taxpayers that they don’t give hoot about those of use who have NEVER had any kind of criminal record.

This is going to blow up before long. Those politicians don’t have enough places to hide.


52 posted on 08/21/2019 2:35:25 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Texas resident

And because none in the UniParty are loyal nationalists, but treacherous globalists.


53 posted on 08/21/2019 2:36:34 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: SleeperCatcher

Ever want to dry out the user base, easy as:
- Intercept shipment
- Lace w/ poison
- Allow shipment to be delivered

Course, too many ‘elite\powerful’ would likely to be effected to allow such a ploy


54 posted on 08/21/2019 3:14:54 PM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: NobleFree

I agree. Legalize it.


55 posted on 08/21/2019 5:14:30 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: ridesthemiles
IF I am an employer-—I now cannot even drug test a prospective employee BEFORE I hire them in Nevada. Sure to keep many other companies from coming into this state. It is completely NUTS.

It is nuts - and has nothing to do with legalization; potential employees are using now despite illegality.

The high value of the drugs being used in this country is a lure that the young, UNEDUCATED, & Impressionable ferals see as the ONLY path they can follow.

And they have a high value only because they're illegal; notice that nobody is selling the legal drug alcohol on street corners.

56 posted on 08/21/2019 5:16:13 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: fruser1

Gonna have to make them Pit Bull breeds to eat those infused with drugs from taking them or swallowing ‘packets” for transport...


57 posted on 08/22/2019 2:43:29 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: marktwain

Spot-on.

AND would it put a significant dent in profits to the cartels and those here who hawk the drugs to generate new users (mostly children)?

Treating a social problem as a criminal problem accomplishes nothing (obviously).

But OH: According to all those who dispute legalization would rather all of the power be afforded to cartels and corrupt enforcement agencies. Nice. /s And, as you cited, let’s not forget about the corrupting influence upon government itself.

I suggest everyone watch Kill the Messenger for enlightenment.


58 posted on 08/22/2019 6:41:52 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: i_robot73; All
- Intercept shipment - Lace w/ poison - Allow shipment to be delivered

You are proposing mass murder of unsuspecting people.

People who, as far as you know, have never committed violence against another person.

That is evil.

59 posted on 08/22/2019 7:07:23 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Yes, of “criminals”

Well, there’s a large contingent on FR that love ‘em some fascism (aka war on [some]drugs)

I was merely giving one example of ‘how to solve’; it’s just as ‘legal’ as the WoD, no? I mean, we are only talking about the users of meth, cocaine, crack, phenol+ The weed is GROWN, not manufactured.


60 posted on 08/23/2019 1:18:37 PM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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