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Wind is outpacing coal as a power source in Texas for the first time
CNN (I know, but it is interesting) ^ | CNN 4 hrs ago | By Ryan Prior

Posted on 07/25/2019 8:00:33 PM PDT by cba123

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To: Mark

Mosquitoes and other biting insects are all cheering ...


41 posted on 07/26/2019 1:51:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: TADSLOS

He’s definitely not the superhero he is made out to be. He is the one to blame when Texas goes Blue, as it will happen. Of course, he isn’t going to be effected by that political shift, so he doesn’t care.


42 posted on 07/26/2019 1:55:30 AM PDT by qaz123
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Wind power did empower the Netherlands to pump itself dry. It’s wrong as a fetish — it’s right as an ingenious solution in its niche. And surely with the right will to do it, the units could be built so as to be much less risky to avian wildlife. The hypocrisy in modern fads of “green” is never more obvious than in modern wind turbine power.


43 posted on 07/26/2019 2:51:45 AM PDT by God cares
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Wind power did empower the Netherlands to pump itself dry. It’s wrong as a fetish — it’s right as an ingenious solution in its niche. And surely with the right will to do it, the units could be built so as to be much less risky to avian wildlife. The hypocrisy in modern fads of “green” is never more obvious than in modern wind turbine power.


44 posted on 07/26/2019 2:51:46 AM PDT by God cares
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Make a killing with the subsidies you get to build it, walk away leaving the operation to some sap to deal with the inevitable loss.

Great tax racket business model. Sucks for everyone else though.


45 posted on 07/26/2019 2:54:32 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: cba123

Required minimum of 25% by state law, paid for through subsidies and jacked-up utility rates, captive customers. The deregulation of Texas power was only a windfall for the electric companies.


46 posted on 07/26/2019 4:52:05 AM PDT by rstrahan
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They can increase the wind power even more by attaching tiny fans to the back of cows and make use of all that methane output....then they can look at further miniaturization for chickens...and maybe to put beside the mic’s in front of Dem mouths....


47 posted on 07/26/2019 5:05:56 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: CatOwner

We live in Bakersfield. I WISH we had on average $310 electric bills. The latest one is $476 and that’s before the heat hit. And hubby insists on setting the thermostat at 74 or 75 degrees! I walk down the hall and bump it up to 77. Then he walks down the hall and bumps it down to 74. All summer long. I call it our yearly ac wars. lol We have done everything we could to make our 1978 2000 sq ft home more energy efficient. New high dollar double pane windows. New ac unit. New Energy efficient pool pump, etc. etc. Nothing helps. If you save energy they just jack the prices up. I have just given up.


48 posted on 07/26/2019 7:26:02 AM PDT by sheana
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So much disinformation here.

Wind may be cheaper than coal but only for 4 to 6 hours AT NIGHT when demand is lowest. Still needs natural gas power backup so have to pay price of redundant power.

Coal has to be imported into Texas. Wind power needs no cost fuel imported from other states and so wind energy keeps all of its energy production inside the state (fuel, power plant, etc). I’m no fan of wind power but self reliant energy sources are what Texas is apparently seeking.

ERCOT, the Texas energy grid system, is self-contained and has no way of buying imported electricity but it can buy imported fuel to run in its power plants.

Texas is a Plains State and does not need wind and solar power to reduce air pollution from power plants as does, say, California, which is a Basin State where smog and pollution is trapped. So cleaner air is not the apparent objective in Texas, but self reliant energy sources apparently is.


49 posted on 07/26/2019 9:32:10 AM PDT by WLusvardi
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Like all power generation, wind has its pluses and minuses. Iowa has the greatest % of its power produced by wind than any state. Iowa is a windy place, with average across the state 24/7/365 wind speeds of 11MPH.

But the turbines take up good farmland. They are noisy, and make annoying shadows if you live close to them. They kill birds. And in Iowa, on a yearly basis, the wind blows the most in April, which is the lowest electric need time (with moderate temps) and least in August (high temps). And on a daily basis, the wind aloft blows the most at sunrise, (not much going on then) and least around 5PM (when everybody is getting home and firing up stuff)

On the good news side, it is cheap power, I believe power companies can get long term contracts for it for under 2 cents per KWH. Nukes and coal can't compete at that price. So those plants are getting shut down in Iowa. And what is getting built are natural gas fired plants, which are easy to bring up and down as the wind comes and goes.

50 posted on 07/26/2019 9:43:16 AM PDT by Pappy Smear
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USA Grid power systems/grids


51 posted on 07/26/2019 9:48:42 AM PDT by deport
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To: sheana
We live in Bakersfield. I WISH we had on average $310 electric bills. The latest one is $476 and that’s before the heat hit. And hubby insists on setting the thermostat at 74 or 75 degrees! I walk down the hall and bump it up to 77. Then he walks down the hall and bumps it down to 74. All summer long. I call it our yearly ac wars. lol We have done everything we could to make our 1978 2000 sq ft home more energy efficient. New high dollar double pane windows. New ac unit. New Energy efficient pool pump, etc. etc. Nothing helps. If you save energy they just jack the prices up. I have just given up.

Yeah, I can see that for Bakersfield. It's why I mentioned our average summer highs, which aren't that high, and a big reason why people settled into Silicon Valley decades ago. Many people would kill for those more moderate summer temperatures, yet probably wouldn't be too happy with the resulting energy bill.

Our new 3,250 sq ft home here in central Texas benefits from being extremely energy efficient and with the low energy rates. We just had an electrical meter read this week, and I estimate our electricity bill for the prior month will be around $170-$180. Thermostat set to 73-74 degrees during the day, 71 while sleeping. While the highs here are lower than in Bakersfield, it's the humidity that gets you to run the AC more often.

52 posted on 07/26/2019 10:25:04 AM PDT by CatOwner
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Our ac bills in our previous 1100 sq ft home ran $175 in the summer.....25 years ago. Lol


53 posted on 07/26/2019 11:07:22 AM PDT by sheana
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How much energy is invested in production of a concrete and steel base to allow erecting a giant wind turbine? At what point does the feed-in tariff (subsidy) pay for the investment? Does the turbine produce enough energy in it’s relatively short life (before recurrent repair) to justify installation? What does one do with a wind farm abandoned due to maintenance cost exceeding income, once the period (15 years?) of subsidy expires?


54 posted on 07/27/2019 3:56:31 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: WLusvardi

Mutiple DC interconnects (Oklaunion, Monticello, and Eagle Pass) exist between ERCOT and other generating districts. How much power is moving between any two regions, which direction, one must do a deep dig.


55 posted on 07/27/2019 4:15:25 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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