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New Zealand: Disarmament Advocate Pushes for More than Semi-Autos
Ammoland ^ | 21 July, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/24/2019 3:01:43 AM PDT by marktwain

New Zealand: Disarmament Advocate Pushes for More than Semi-Autos

As New Zealand gun owners seek to comply with their government's new ban on the ownership of semi-automatic centerfire rifles, an advocate for the ban says it is not enough. Nik Green goes so far as to say the attempt to comply with the ban renders the ban pointless. From newshub.com:

Police are looking into whether kits designed to modify AR-15s from semi-automatic to pump-action would allow owners to keep the rifles, which are used in about half of all mass shootings in the US.

Gun Control NZ co-founder Nik Green says allowing the modification kit would render the new laws pointless.

“Any conversion isn't permanent, so you could quite easily switch it back to being a semi-automatic… It doesn't take these dangerous guns off the streets.”

Green is being disingenuous. He makes the jump of logic that because conversions can be reversed, it can be done “quite easily.” It is an enormous jump.

It is true conversions can be reversed. Any modification can be reversed if enough time, money, and energy are used. A welded barrel can be replaced with a new barrel. A receiver cut into three can be welded back together and machined again. The truth is new; fully automatic guns can be made as easily as many conversions can be reversed.  Blowback submachine guns are one of the easiest repeaters to make. They are illegally made in small shops and at home all over the world,

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; newzealand; semiauto
Laws against gun importation based on the possibility of conversion to semi-auto become superfluous when making a full auto gun is easier than the conversion.
1 posted on 07/24/2019 3:01:43 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Please don’t ban my boomerang or bolo.


2 posted on 07/24/2019 3:27:48 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Police are looking into whether kits designed to modify AR-15s from semi-automatic to pump-action would allow owners to keep the rifles, which are used in about half of all mass shootings in the US.

Bogus....and false.

3 posted on 07/24/2019 3:28:34 AM PDT by ealgeone
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I think the first gun I shot was a pump action .22 rifle, so perhaps a pump action AR-15 is possible, but I don’t want one...I want the real thing..


4 posted on 07/24/2019 3:35:45 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: marktwain

I would think NZ would follow Switzerland’s example. In Switzerland, as in Israel, those in the military or the militia, keep their weapons at home. Lots of similarities among the three. NZ is a remote island country, Switzerland is a remote mountain country, Israel, is a small remote country surrounded by hostile. Anyway, seems NZ is going the wrong way when it comes to private ownership of guns. Guess the Libs must be in power down under...


5 posted on 07/24/2019 3:37:21 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

The Swiss would be an excellent example for New Zealand, but the far left party in power would rather emulate Venezuela.

The Australians had universal military service until 1972.

Gun control in Australia was considered a political liability until the middle 1980s.

My suspicion is if universal military service had continued, there would never have been the extreme gun controls passed in 1997.


6 posted on 07/24/2019 3:46:16 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Give them the bullets first. At speed.


7 posted on 07/24/2019 4:41:10 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: marktwain

This is just a political opponent disarmament scheme, their political allies will not be made to conform.


8 posted on 07/24/2019 4:50:21 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: marktwain

This article’s pointless since reports I see say the Kiwis aren’t turning in their guns anyway.


9 posted on 07/24/2019 4:53:09 AM PDT by jimjohn (2020: The year the Republicans can and should take back the black vote.)
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Pointless? Huh?


“Banning guns places the target on gun owners and shifts the debate from immigration, terrorism, and media contagion to gun ownership. Censorship in New Zealand worked to institutionalize that shift.”

Have you ever seen that in print before?


10 posted on 07/24/2019 5:13:59 AM PDT by QBFimi (It is not your responsibility to finish the work of perfecting the world... Tarfon)
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Never pass a law that you KNOW won't be complied with.

Less than 300 weapons have actually been turned in out of over 150K semiautos.

Kiwis are NOT disarming voluntarily.

11 posted on 07/24/2019 5:43:51 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Coming in from the cold .... been a LONG while.)
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What are they supposed to do when the Chinese land?


12 posted on 07/24/2019 5:45:22 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I have never seen a dead horse get up, beat on or not)
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What are they supposed to do when the Chinese land?

Surrender.

13 posted on 07/24/2019 5:53:15 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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As New Zealand gun owners seek to comply with their government's new ban on the ownership of semi-automatic centerfire rifles...

From all reports, NZ'ers are not complying.
14 posted on 07/24/2019 6:06:26 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: marktwain
556/12 ga pump combo.


15 posted on 07/24/2019 6:35:04 AM PDT by umgud
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My hunter/champion skeet shooting NZ Dad is turning over in his grave...


16 posted on 07/24/2019 6:54:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: mylife

My boomerang won’t come back.


17 posted on 07/24/2019 8:51:08 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

KIWI’S Love Weapons!


18 posted on 07/25/2019 8:23:51 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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