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Ousted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence
Washington Examiner ^ | 7/15/2019 | Tom Rogan

Posted on 07/16/2019 7:26:01 AM PDT by RightGeek

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To: Grampa Dave
"This is another prime example of how we can not trust the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Kiwis with any intel. We should cancel our part in the 5 Eye intel sharing."

Really? The nickname "five eyes" derives from the fact that all the anglophone nations collect intelligence and share it with the others. This alliance allows the anglosphere to collect intelligence, especially signals, from around the globe because of their geographical distribution. Your suggestion would cut the US out of intelligence gathered by the Aussies at Pine Gap, UK signals intelligence from GCHQ, and the Communications Security Establishment Canada.

So because of a dumb UK envoy who has resigned in disgrace you would cut off US access to a trove of signals intelligence. Good idea, good luck with that.

21 posted on 07/16/2019 10:20:03 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam---At war with Western Civilization for 1400 years.)
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To: liberalh8ter

“...ambassadors do a lot more than we think they do.”

The heavy lifting is staff work. The talking head is usually a political appointee.


22 posted on 07/16/2019 11:02:53 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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When I performed IT in the foreign service in posts abroad, the ambassador or consulate general was given distribution on nearly everything.

This is an entirely different situation.


23 posted on 07/16/2019 11:36:31 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Former Proud Canadian

GCHQ was involved in the attempted Coup against citizen Trump, president Elect Trump and probably President Trump.

That caused their director to resign to spend more time with his family.

Canada with Trudeau as their lead anti America cheerleader in Canada is not trustworthy.

New Zealand, give me a break.

Australia’s new PM may be okay. However, an OZ PM years ago, didn’t even know about 5 Eyes. He apparently was such a bad security risk his own Intel people decided to not read him in.

Back to the UK, dealing with them now is like trusting London’s wonderful mayor.


24 posted on 07/16/2019 1:51:00 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( America - A country so great that even her haters will not leave it!)
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I’m British and I hope this leads to the collapse of 5 eyes. Its a scam designed to get around domestic laws preventing intelligence services spying on their own citizens by contracting it out to one of the other members of 5 eyes. Our governments have a cosy little cartel going where each government each spy on each other’s people and then share that information with each other.


25 posted on 07/19/2019 7:35:29 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Former Proud Canadian

There is no reason why specific, relevent intelligence cannot be shared rather than have everything automatically shared between the members.


26 posted on 07/19/2019 7:37:14 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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“I’m British and I hope this leads to the collapse of 5 eyes. Its a scam designed to get around domestic laws preventing intelligence services spying on their own citizens by contracting it out to one of the other members of 5 eyes. Our governments have a cozy little cartel going where each government each spy on each other’s people and then share that information with each other.”

Absolutely, that was the original 5 eyes concept: we would spy on the UK, Australia Canada and NZ’s people so they didn’t have to. Then, they spied on Americans like Citizen Trump, Trump President elect and President Trump while the FBI/CIA didn’t break the law. The Brits spied on and meddled in our primaries, actual election, and post election.

We have been monitoring your private and business conversations for 60+ years and vice versa.

As you noted, it is a total scam.


27 posted on 07/19/2019 9:06:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( America - A country so great that even her haters will not leave it!)
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Bingo!


28 posted on 07/19/2019 9:08:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( America - A country so great that even her haters will not leave it!)
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