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Posted on 07/14/2019 6:27:19 AM PDT by libstripper
There wasn’t any ‘deal’ that dealt with blackmail....
If the section cited by McCarthy in his article regarding the non-pros is accurate, Epstein was given “immunity” for acts that would violate the section regarding sex trafficking for ANY victim from 2001 thru 2007. This federal immunity was granted on the condition he would plead to the state charge.
SDNY may have a real problem with the double-jeopardy issue if the court views this the same way. McCarthy makes some good points and I don’t ever remember him going off on a tangent like some others have in the past.
FYI - blackmail and money laundering?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html - epstein
from link:
So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn’t some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):
(1/13) Let’s take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We’ll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you’re very disposable (see: DC madam), and it’s also not super lucrative. You can’t charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don’t need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you’re still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don’t even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she’ll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)
(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don’t really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)
(8/13) The fund itself doesn’t need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don’t want to money from non-pedophiles, or they’ll notice you’ve just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)
(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.
(10/13) Because of this structure, you’re extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren’t clients, they’re pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)
(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don’t invest in the fund, but it’s nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.
(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you’re ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There’s almost zero risk.
(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You’d want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can’t touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?
(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.
(10/13) Because of this structure, you’re extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren’t clients, they’re pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)
(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don’t invest in the fund, but it’s nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.
I bet there’s a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.
The fact that Epstein’s fund is offshore in a tax haven — it is based in the U.S. Virgin Islands — and has a secret client list both add credence to the blackmail theory.
ping. 8>)
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So any molestation that happened AFTER the deal is irrelevant. Not only did he ‘get away’ with the previous molestations (compared to what would have happened to YOU), he also got immunity to molest for the rest of his life?
amongst the pawns, the very Jewish District attorney of Palm Beach, Barry Krischer...Except for in your mind, what does being Jewish, "very" or otherwise have to do with anything?
“Yeah.
Brilliantly ignoring that more underaged victims unequivocally means new crimes.”
According to McCarthy, if those additional victims were abused prior to the plea agreement, it won’t make any difference. The agreement covered all such crimes regardless if they had been uncovered or not. If the crimes happened after the 2007 agreement they’re fair game, but news reports claim these new charges stem from the same time frame.
Why does McCarthy choose to build expectations for Epstein escaping justice, instead of applying him considerable knowledge to figure out how SDNY CAN prosecute a mass child-raping politically corrupt blackmailing fraudulent scumbag?
SDNY has multiple options: prove post-2007 offenses (there is no way that Epstein stopped offending; child porn in Epstein’s abode in 2019 ought to cover that); show that Epstein violated the 2007 agreement, which could not legally bestow immunity for future crimes; charge Epstein with offenses not addressed in the “global” deal (how about ... BLACKMAIL); arrange for State AG’s to prosecute the scum on State charges (Florida now has a governor who presumably is not in Epstein’s thrall); show in court that the 2007 agreement was the product of corruption and therefore invalid.
I agree. However, I believe Epstein's biggest exposure is kiddie porn.
Also, anyone who rode the "Lolita express" or is a close friend of Epstein is in jeopardy. Epstein could skate while Bill Clinton and others could be in deep doo-doo.
The feds didn’t convict him. He plead guilty to state charges to avoid federal prosecution. If there are no no charges based on subsequent crimes, in essence the feds are backtracking on the deal.
The problem with this is that anyone who blows the whistle is admitting that they raped little girls at the same time that they are posing a threat to the likes of Bill Clinton. If they keep their mouths shut they only have their conscience to deal with (and that’s never posed a problem before). If they speak up their lives are over, figuratively and probably literally.
The SDNY may have grabbed Epstein not for prosecution, but to limit access to him.
The points raised are interesting as well as the article linked on Epstein’s history as a hedge-fund manager.
If memory serves, I believe there was a news article about Epstein’s house having a “very private and secure” safe/room that no one was allowed to enter. Could be where all the skeletons are buried.
The Epstein case is another great legacy of Dubya.
Names are going to become public soon anyhow. There’s a safe with name and a missing ‘black book’ that could surface at any time. ... these people would be better off coming forward and ‘making a deal’ early... they might be able to keep their privacy.
And Robert Muller — the gift that keeps on giving.
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