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Townhall.com ^ | July 10, 2019 | John Stossel

Posted on 07/10/2019 8:02:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

The city of Dunedin, Florida, wants Jim Ficken's home.

Ficken's mom died, so he went to South Carolina to take care of her estate. He asked a friend to look after his house.

But then the friend died, and no one cut Ficken's grass. When it grew to 10 inches, Dunedin officials started fining him $500 a day.

The fine is now about $30,000.

"I was shocked," Ficken says in my latest video. City officials say they will foreclose on his home if he doesn't pay the fine, and Ficken doesn't have that much money.

"Do you have $30,000 lying around?!" he asked me.

"The city has gone nuclear!" complains his lawyer, Ari Bargil. "$500 per day for the violation of having tall grass. ... They could have done what their own ordinances permit them to do: hire a lawn service to come out and mow the grass. Then send Jim a bill for 150 bucks. But they didn't do that."

Why not? Bargil and Ficken say it's because Dunedin's officials just want money.

Dunedin's politicians wouldn't talk to us. Instead, they spent $25,000 on a public relations firm that told reporters, "Dunedin has no desire to impose large fines... (only to) ensure that Dunedin is a high-quality community."

The cost of "high quality" keeps going up.

Eleven years ago, Dunedin fined people $34,000. Today, they want about that much from Ficken alone. Last year Dunedin collected $1.3 million in fines from residents.

"It's pretty apparent that code enforcement is a major cash cow for the city," says Bargil.

"I got violated for a lawnmower in my yard!" says one resident who has been fined $32,000. "They violated me for a hole the size of a quarter in my stucco ... They find people they can pick on ... and they keep picking on them."

She started crying as she recounted: "I can't tell you how many sleepless nights I've had because of the city of Dunedin. Just try to think of what to say to them, just to have them leave me alone."

"The city is just a bunch of bullies, and they expect people not to stand up to 'em because to stand up to 'em requires expensive legal help," says Ficken.

Ficken managed to get expensive legal help for free from the Institute for Justice, a law firm that defends individuals abused by governments.

All across the country, "private citizens are being essentially extorted by their governments and fined incredible amounts of money for really, really small violations," says Bargil.

You can be fined for not trimming plants, the way Ficken was, but you can also be fined for trimming too much. A city in North Carolina fined a local church $100 per branch ($4,000) for excessive tree-pruning.

And in places such as Dunedin, if you can't pay a fine, they'll take your home.

"The city attorney of Dunedin last year sought permission to foreclose on 18 properties," says Bargil.

That violates the Eighth Amendment, says the Institute for Justice. The Amendment not only protects us from "cruel and unusual punishment" but also from "excessive fines."

The Founding Fathers, says Bargil, "recognized that the ability to fine is the ability to cripple. It's one of the ways, other than incarceration, that government can really oppress."

If governments can oppress, they usually will.

We should be grateful for the Eighth Amendment's protection against excessive fines.

And what's more excessive than politicians taking your home because you didn't cut your grass?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dunedin; fines; government; stossel; tyranny
This bullying by the government has to stop
1 posted on 07/10/2019 8:02:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Oh, like an HOA on steroids. Cancelling an HOA is about as hard as getting rid of a timeshare. Better chance of building a rocket to the moon in the garage. LOL!


2 posted on 07/10/2019 8:07:10 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Kaslin

If possible, never live in a municipality or incorporated area. Fed, state, and county are bad enough to deal with.


3 posted on 07/10/2019 8:09:31 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: rktman

When I sold my house a long time ago I found out my HOA was the first lean holder!!!! WTH? The dues were $2.00/mo and they held leans on all of the properties. The FIRST LEAN!!!


4 posted on 07/10/2019 8:09:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Never ever move where there is an HOA

NANNY SYATE NONSENSE


5 posted on 07/10/2019 8:12:00 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Kaslin

Government does not need to have compasssion. Government has the power (but not the right) to do this sort of thing, and you have no recourse.

Never mind the bull$hit about violating any amendment. They don’t care about amendments or the entire Constitution.

Deep down, it’s because statists don’t want you to have private property. So they take a little bit at a time. The big act of theft is the “property tax” whereby they take 3% a year from you. After 33 years they will have confiscated the entire value of the property.

And you thought that it was “yours.”

Yes, I hate government overreach and abuse of power.


6 posted on 07/10/2019 8:16:17 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: I want the USA back

One among many reasons I live in an unincorporated township on 100 acres.

Minimal government regulation and attention.

Dunedin should be sued for a few million dollars on constitutional grounds.


7 posted on 07/10/2019 8:20:48 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Kaslin

Eminent Domain by the back door. There is no such thing as a true “fee simple” title to the holder of the title in the chain of custody of real estate. The local taxing authority, be it municipal, county or state, always has an implied lien for tax purposes, which in this instance, was compounded by fees and fines assessed for failure to comply with local ordinance.

Is it legal? Short answer, yes. Is it justified? Probably, the penalty imposed was MUCH too harsh, and should be adjudicated in some way, but that again involves much legal legwork, and may, in the end, greatly exceed the amount of the fine or even the total value of the property in question.


8 posted on 07/10/2019 8:23:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (The difference between real life and fiction? Fiction has to make sense and follow some logic.)
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To: Kaslin
Dunedin officials

Ya know - these people have names. And addresses.

The citizens should stop treating them like an entity that can't be dealt with.

9 posted on 07/10/2019 8:33:21 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Kaslin

If memory serves. His house is older typical Florida beach house just a few blocks from the Gulf. The city no doubt is hoping for a buyer who will knock it down and build a larger in your face dwelling that will generate a higher property tax.


10 posted on 07/10/2019 8:34:27 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone who thinks they own a home... you don’t. Nice American dream tax scheme though.


11 posted on 07/10/2019 8:39:34 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Do you know anyone who isnÂ’t a socialist after 65? Freedom exchanged cash, a medicare card control.)
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To: central_va
When I sold my house a long time ago I found out my HOA was the first lean lien holder!!!! WTH? The dues were $2.00/mo and they held leans liens on all of the properties. The FIRST LEAN LIEN!!!

Regards,

12 posted on 07/10/2019 8:51:53 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Kaslin

Go rentta Bulldozer and Knock their own Homes down to rubble


13 posted on 07/10/2019 8:59:11 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok

Your comment reminds me of the story from a few years back about the guy that dumped some ridiculously large amount of horse manure (a LOT of horse manure) in front of a local government assh*le’s front door.

Used his front-end loader and just returned some of what they’d been doing to him.

And that’s mild compared to what he could have done...


14 posted on 07/10/2019 9:09:26 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kaslin

If the city is doing this to all the residents, why don’t the residents just vote for new leadership, and have them change the laws?


15 posted on 07/10/2019 9:15:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: alexander_busek

Duh. LOL!


16 posted on 07/10/2019 9:17:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fruser1

We don’t but still get threatened with fines for bs. In the middle of one such citation right now.


17 posted on 07/10/2019 10:00:03 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kaslin

Every day that goes by and we don’t hear of another Carl Drega I’m both surprised and dismayed.


18 posted on 07/10/2019 10:07:43 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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