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A new Senate bill would fundamentally change the internet as we know it
Digital Trends ^ | June 20, 2019 | Allison Matyus

Posted on 06/29/2019 7:31:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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“This bill forces platforms to make an impossible choice: Either host reprehensible, but First Amendment protected speech, or lose legal protections that allow them to moderate illegal content like human trafficking and violent extremism,” said Michael Beckerman, president and CEO of the tech lobbying group the Internet Association. “That shouldn’t be a tradeoff.”
so free speech is now reprehensible?


21 posted on 06/29/2019 8:32:07 PM PDT by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-ampute)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly!


22 posted on 06/29/2019 8:39:37 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
— they would either be liable for user content and could get sued, or they’d have to ensure their content seemed politically neutral, a decision made by a government agency.

Their lawyers will advise them to eliminate all political content across the board.

23 posted on 06/29/2019 8:43:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Can’t have it but ways.

That was a slip of the tongue.

24 posted on 06/29/2019 8:45:57 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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I can disagree with what you say but support your right to say it.


25 posted on 06/29/2019 8:47:18 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

terrible law, but here’s what they SHOULD pass, namely Federal legislation that makes social media platforms subject to liability (with treble damages for punishment) from anyone who believes they were censored for their political views ... would take only a couple of pages for the law, and would pretty much immediately rectify all political censorship ...


26 posted on 06/29/2019 9:12:51 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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“Tech companies like Twitter or YouTube currently have protection under Section 230 against being held liable for what users post on the site. That’s why you typically can’t sue Facebook for a hateful statement someone else posts on your timeline.”

That is why Facebook is not supposed to exercise editorial control over content.
Open the SOBs up for litigation. When they moderate, we are allowed to assume they approve of and are responsible for everything posted.


27 posted on 06/29/2019 9:34:56 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Verizon does not decide who I can call who on their phones. In exchange, I cannot sue Verizon when someone uses a Verizon phone to hire the hitman they send after me.

Fair exchange.

Quit censoring political opinions, and enjoy lawsuit protection. Easy..


28 posted on 06/29/2019 9:38:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Writing yet another law which will be ignored or unenforced is another pointless effort.
Congress and DOJ needs to prove to voters they will enforce laws already on the books.
Antifa attacking people with rocks is a felony.
Refusing to even charge the perp with Assault apparently doesn’t violate the law.


29 posted on 06/29/2019 9:38:51 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: LegendHasIt

You have it backwards. Facebook and Google suppressing conservative thought has to end, OR they must accept legal responsibility for everything on their sites. After all, THEY have reviewed and approved it.

This puts them on equal footing with newspapers and TV news broadcasters who can be sued. The Covington high school boys and Richard Jewell are fine examples. Both sued for slanderous untruthful coverage about them. But they are legally prevented from going after FB or Google.

To protect themselves from such huge litigation they must choose. WIDE circumspect moderation, including by the progressives, BLM, etc. That, or they must allow to say what they want.

They are not censoring threats “I am going to murder Joe X”.
They are censoring political ideas that they do not agree with.


30 posted on 06/29/2019 9:44:48 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Also we need Trump to issue an immediate executive order.

“No executive branch agency may use the services of any social media company that censors on the basis of political opinion. No contracts for IT services may be signed with any company that censors content”.

No Facebook pages at DOD, NAVY, USAF, HUD, USDA, Dept of Labor, Interior, NASA, NOAA, USGS, FAA, HHS, Education, etc.
No Twitter pages either.

Then open similar accounts at some other legitimate social media company.


31 posted on 06/29/2019 9:52:22 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT!


32 posted on 06/29/2019 10:01:03 PM PDT by Pagey (8 years of MISERY, Thanks to Valerie Jarrett. Wretched human.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT!


33 posted on 06/29/2019 10:01:42 PM PDT by Pagey (8 years of MISERY, Thanks to Valerie Jarrett. Wretched human.)
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To: DesertRhino

I’m no fan of Facebook, Google, Twitter etc. In fact I’d like to see them destroyed....

...By competition, and by people just completely abandoning them because of their abuses..

I just don’t want to see more government regulations stifling free speech, nor by them telling a business what they may or may not do with their own platforms.


34 posted on 06/29/2019 10:11:52 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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> Turn them into utilities. Not responsbile for content, unable to do anything with content. Let the users have and use censoring aps to strain it.

There you go again, injecting Common Sense into the discussion.... :-)

Yes, that’s exactly the right call.

35 posted on 06/29/2019 10:48:19 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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violates there immunity

their

36 posted on 06/30/2019 12:21:52 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“violent extremism” being defined as any Conservative or Christian point of view; all other points of view are acceptable.


37 posted on 06/30/2019 3:33:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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“This bill forces platforms to make an impossible choice: Either host reprehensible, but First Amendment protected speech, or lose legal protections that allow them to moderate illegal content like human trafficking and violent extremism”

I was permanently expelled from Facebook for posting photographs that "violate community standards." They were pictures that I--and others--had posted more than once before--photos of ISIS atrocities, beheadings, murdered and tortured children, that sort of thing, realities that the world should know about. However I suspect that the real reason was my consistent support for President Trump.

Large internet companies are de facto monopolies. They must not be allowed to to override the protections that the Constitution gives to freedom of speech.

In fact, they use the enormous power, that their de facto monopolies give them, for purposes of political propaganda, influencing elections, and advancing political and personal agendas.

They have the de facto authority to brand as "hate speech" and "violent extremism" and "reprehensible" any opinion with which they disagree and thus to silence it.

Freedom of speech and the free exchange of ideas are not only God given rights protected by the US Constitution, but they are rights too fundamental and too important to be nullified by a powerful de facto oligarchy. NOTHING could be more dangerous.

38 posted on 06/30/2019 4:45:30 AM PDT by Savage Beast (When the Light of Truth threatens to expose corruption, it's the corrupt who try to extinguish it.)
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lose legal protections that allow them to moderate illegal content like human trafficking and violent extremism”

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they should lose those legal protections. They are utilities and the faster we regulate them the better. Call your local congress critters and reps and ask them to introduce bills state by state.

Users need to be the ones regulating what they see. I woiuld happily pay for use of a FB like place and for the apps to strain through what I see. Probably same for Instagram and Reddit. Even Twitt.

But I will not stand having these leftist owners dictate what I see or hear.

Nor would I put up with an electic provider who doesnt approve of me watching a tv show and cuts my power, or doesnt approve of my brand of dishwasher and cuts my power.


39 posted on 06/30/2019 4:50:32 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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lose legal protections that allow them to moderate illegal content like human trafficking and violent extremism”

________________

they should lose those legal protections. They are utilities and the faster we regulate them the better. Call your local congress critters and reps and ask them to introduce bills state by state.

Users need to be the ones regulating what they see. I woiuld happily pay for use of a FB like place and for the apps to strain through what I see. Probably same for Instagram and Reddit. Even Twitt.

But I will not stand having these leftist owners dictate what I see or hear.

Nor would I put up with an electic provider who doesnt approve of me watching a tv show and cuts my power, or doesnt approve of my brand of dishwasher and cuts my power.


40 posted on 06/30/2019 4:50:35 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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