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Guess What, Colleges? Two-Thirds Of Your Grads Regret Their Diploma, Costs and Major
Hotair ^ | 06/28/2019 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 06/28/2019 12:02:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: forgotten man

“Around where I live recruiters cannot find enough people with advanced degrees in bio sciences. A lot of them are getting starting base salaries of about $190,000. On the other hand, if you have a liberal arts degree you are in the same position as a high school graduate with no college degree.”

My daughter got her degree in biology...what is the difference between that and bio sciences...I always have my ear to the ground to give her ideas for high paying careers


41 posted on 06/28/2019 1:45:59 PM PDT by terart
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


42 posted on 06/28/2019 1:46:27 PM PDT by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberal arts degree job training...

In one easy lesson!

Lesson 1

English - Would you like fries with that?
Spanish - ¿Le gustaría papas fritas con eso?
French - Voudriez-vous des frites avec ça?
Russian - Хочешь картошку фри с этим?
Swedish - Vill du ha pommes frites med det?
Swahili - Je! Ungependa fries na hayo?

43 posted on 06/28/2019 1:46:33 PM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: terart

Your daughter should look for a job in San Diego, near UCSD. There a lot of companies developing new cures for cancer and other diseases.


44 posted on 06/28/2019 1:51:42 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish I could sell my degrees.

I’m retired and don’t need them on my resume.

Besides, anything I have learned hasn’t come from professors but from street-level experience plus lots and lots of reading.


45 posted on 06/28/2019 1:52:56 PM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: lgjhn23
Liberalism destroys everything it touches....EVERYTHING!!

A machine fundamentally powered by envy destroys like envy. Leftism is little more than organized envy. The left side of the bell curve mob uses it to rationalize armed robbery. "Nice place you got here. Be a shame if anything happened to it."

46 posted on 06/28/2019 2:15:40 PM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Moonman62

“They should be allowed to sue to get their money back.”

Yes, class action lawsuits against pubic school districts, the teachers’ unions and the DOEd.


47 posted on 06/28/2019 2:16:52 PM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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But a lot of liberal arts degrees may round you out as a person, but don’t leave you with much that it marketable.

I guess it depends. Our kid chose to go to a U of California college and major in Psychology (intensive program). Wasn't really sure what kind of career at the time. Took some sciences, Calculus, Statistics, etc. to fill in the electives.

Decided not to stay in college too long. Finished the BA degree in three years plus the following summer. Mom and Dad paid the freight. No college loans. Stayed at home a little over a year, working and saving money, then moved from California to Texas. Has been working for four years and is currently a shift manager making close to $100k with yearly bonus money. About to change positions within the company.

The degree program did round out the skill set. A lot of research and writing. Our kid is an organizing wizard. It was worth every penny we paid for that degree.

48 posted on 06/28/2019 2:24:22 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Vigilanteman

Because STEM jobs are being replaced by H1B visa holders. Everyone likes to mock the stereotypical Women’s Studies and other useless degrees, but the fact of the matter is ALL degrees are losing their value because ALL fields are being filled by cheap labor. This needs to be addressed, and quite frankly college IS too expensive. Otherwise Millennials and Generation Z will just vote in whoever promises to cancel their debt first, and you know the Democrats will come up with the most asinine way to do it.


49 posted on 06/28/2019 2:35:51 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: polymuser

Yes, class action lawsuits against pubic school districts, the teachers’ unions and the DOEd.

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That would cripple the big government liberals, which is what I want.

We’ve been subsidizing them for decades. They should be held financially accountable for their evil work.


50 posted on 06/28/2019 2:36:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Moonman62

I think that they should allow student debt to be discharged via bankruptcy. Then the university has to pay the money with clawbacks through their endowments.

Watch every Grievance Study department evaporate overnight if that happened.


51 posted on 06/28/2019 2:48:43 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: SeekAndFind

Some cone head, somewhere, decided that students needed to be taught the Humanities in order to be “better” citizens. The VAST MAJORITY of students go to college to get a good job so they can earn enough to support themselves, not to study obscure arcana about foreign crap.


52 posted on 06/28/2019 2:57:34 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I noticed this trend years ago. It used to be that you started entry level and worked your way up. Then you had to have a degree just to get in the door! I suspect this had to do with employers being barred from testing prospective employees because it was considered “racist”. So, thanks to the Race Hustlers, thousands of American kids got screwed into paying big money just to work at Starbucks.


53 posted on 06/28/2019 3:01:11 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Shadow44

I think that they should allow student debt to be discharged via bankruptcy. Then the university has to pay the money with clawbacks through their endowments.

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Is that why discharge through bankruptcy isn’t allowed?


54 posted on 06/28/2019 3:21:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Amberdawn
Many years ago, I worked for a Fortune 500. They hired on a two track system. You were either an executive (sales, distribution management) or a line employee (hired locally, secretarial and warehouse.) Nobody from line moved to executive and they wouldn't hire you without a degree. My degree was in Fine Art, but I finessed the interview, even though he told me when I came in that they usually only hired business and management majors.

It was the 70s, and I don't regret my major choice, but even then, it was clear most college students had no business in college. I was able to work part time, parents helped, lived in a dump and worked full time over the summer. Didn't even buy a new pair of jeans during the whole four years. Graduated with no debt.

Back in ye olden days, college was where you went to make connections. A few places, like the Ivy Leagues, still are. I know of a gal that went to Harvard, dad had some connections already, she ends up getting summer jobs at law firms and making big bucks then graduates with a ton of prestigious names on her resume and makes big bucks. Texas A&M has an incredible network, and that's why you see Aggies still wearing their class rings thirty years later.

Got a nephew that was in the Corps of Cadets at A&M, graduated a 2nd Lt, and is getting ready to make Major, now.

He's also very smart and dedicated. That does NOT describe most college students.

55 posted on 06/28/2019 3:28:38 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: terart

Of the STEM degrees biology at the bachelor’s level is the least employable. Can she\you afford to have her go to graduate school?

Does she have a minor?

If you have a BS in biology you have to go to graduate school (including med, pharmacy & nursing school with that statement!) unless you want to teach K-12. It’s possible to get a job as a lab tech at a chemical plant, hospital, etc, hard but possible.

I know people who got a BS in Biology and:

1. Went into a graduate bioengineering program,
2. Went graduate school in chemical engineering,
3. Went graduate school in environmental engineering,
4. Went to graduate school in chemistry &/or biochemistry,
5. Went to graduate school bacteriology, virology (easiest transition), etc. Here I would imagine you need to set your sights on a PhD. (These are probably the biosciences the article is talking about!). There maybe jobs at the master’s level but I really don’t know.
6. Went to graduate school in geology.
7. Went to graduate school in physics - Biophysics

If you’re “crossing over” from an outside discipline don’t expect a stipend your first year (It may happen!) until you have proven yourself in your classes. Number 5 would be the exception. However you’d be surprised what you might get if you ask.

Items 1-4, 6 all you need to get is a master’s degree.

Be bold & believe in yourself. Above be prepared to work hard!


56 posted on 06/28/2019 3:30:43 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

I see BS in Bio who go back for a nursing degree to become employed.


57 posted on 06/28/2019 3:33:36 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: SeekAndFind
Most satisfied were majors in math, science, tech and especially engineering.

But, Dude! Math is like, hard!

/ liberal arts major

58 posted on 06/28/2019 3:34:29 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Chickensoup

That’s works my daughter has a good friend that did that.


59 posted on 06/28/2019 3:34:43 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

that is a lot of education dollars for just becomeing a nurse.

Nursing isnt that complicated it is just factory work.


60 posted on 06/28/2019 3:39:09 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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