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Woke Fascism
Townhall.com ^ | June 28, 2019 | Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel

Posted on 06/28/2019 4:28:35 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: bankwalker
I first remember “woke” as being used to denote the same concept as “red-pilled”.

I have the same issue.

Maybe I am old and terminally confused. But I see this term used two opposite ways:

Some percentage of people use "woke" to mean red-pilled -- they grasp the Deep State, they see the Establishment, they want to reclaim their country.
Some percentage of people use "woke" to mean Committed Social Justice Warrior -- OrangeManBad, White people are the problem, Black Lives Matter, illegal aliens deserve to have more rights than US citizens.

Someone is using the term incorrectly. I don't think it's just a few people either. When someone says "woke", I have no idea which camp they belong to.

21 posted on 06/28/2019 6:13:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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22 posted on 06/28/2019 6:27:39 AM PDT by red-dawg (Climate change caused the end of the Ice Age. Did man play a part in it?)
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To: polymuser

Well said. At my company’s next(forced)’’diversity and inclusion’’ lecture I’m going to try this. I’ll let you know how it goes.


23 posted on 06/28/2019 7:32:02 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: Kaslin

Well I declare, call me presumptuous and even sexist. All this time I thought you were a man. My apologies. Well, it’s the ‘’diversity and inclusion’’ gulag for me. :-)


24 posted on 06/28/2019 7:34:06 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ll say this instead: Men and women are largely sexist.

And zebras are largely zebraist.


25 posted on 06/28/2019 7:53:06 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: jmacusa
I’ll assume your resume’ is up-to-date 😁
26 posted on 06/28/2019 7:54:29 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: polymuser

LOL! I’m not worried. But thanks.


27 posted on 06/28/2019 7:55:25 AM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?''.)
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To: Kaslin

“(At least I don’t think that I am)“

That’s very interesting. Have you watched “The Red Pill” by Cassie Jaye?


28 posted on 06/28/2019 8:02:53 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: Kaslin

I do live under a rock with no Facebook, nothing on social media. Sounds very ghetto to me.


29 posted on 06/28/2019 8:07:32 AM PDT by LumberJack53213
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To: red-dawg

If I had a dollar for every sex, I would have $2 and a bunch of counterfeit bills.


30 posted on 06/28/2019 8:33:11 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: polymuser

There are two genders - male and female. Every exception is a biological accident or mental illness.

If the brain doesn’t match the body, that’s a mental illness.


31 posted on 06/28/2019 8:46:31 AM PDT by tbw2
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Im not seeing this overwhelming popular support but what I am seeing is the flood of money from Soros , corporate media and tech giants, into the game to manipulate elections across the board. This needs to be investigated. It seems as though the losers in the last election, the prior administration and their weaponized agencies are keeping Trump and his team busy while the others are making these moves at the state and local levels
New York Times v. Sullivan was a case decided by SCOTUS in 1964. It was a unanimous decision (of the Warren Court). Mr. Sullivan was a Southern Democrat who sued the NYT over an advertisement which the Times published. The ad was critical of a particular situation in a city in which Mr. Sullivan served (I think as chief of police) - tho Mr. Sullivan was not named explicitly in the ad. My point is that the Sullivan case has plenty of particularities - and yet SCOTUS elected to take the occasion of Sullivan to announce the sweeping principle that judges can’t sue for libel at all, and public figures generally can do so only if they can meet an onerous burden of proof of malicious intent on the part of the publisher. Not only was the majority unanimous, but the opinion was joined by two concurrences expressing the wish of three justices to go even further.

So there’s that. Another way to look at it is that the Morrison v. Olson SCOTUS decision was 8-1 - unanimous but for the dissent of then-freshman Justice Scalia - and history quickly showed that only Scalia had been right. Point being, Scalia wasn’t on the Court in 1964 - and maybe that is the only difference in the validity of the two “consensus” SCOTUS decisions.

IMHO SCOTUS was grossly overenthusiastic in Sullivan because of salient issues they were uniquely situated, in 1964, to be oblivious to. First, let us dispose of the conceit that the First Amendment established freedom of speech and press. Obviously it articulated that, but there is a reason for the “odd” expression “the freedom of speech, or of the press.” The freedom of speech and press already existed at the time of the ratification of the Constitution and of 1A. But the freedom of the press was traditionally limited to non-pornographic, non-libelous press.

In short, like the Second Amendment with its reference to "the right of the people to" keep and bear arms, the First Amendment and the rest of the Bill of Rights was conservative. It created no rights, but merely made some rights explicit in the Constitution - and rejected the conceit that the Constitution touched the rights of the people or of the states in any way not explicitly articulated in the Constitution.

One of the rights not explicitly articulated by the Constitution but whose existence is clearly implied is the right of the people not to be libeled. And to sue for compensation if they are. And, judges and other public officers are people in addition to having an official capacity. Not only do public officers have a right to the reputations they have earned, but the people at large have a right to access to the earned reputations of public officials and candidates. All very well to say that I have a right to my own opinion, which is unfavorable to some politicians and favorable, in one degree or another, to others. I do not have a right to my own facts about those public figures. And that is what I have if I have a press, and none of those figures have any recourse against libel.

For example, I might think of a particular person as a racist. If so, articulating that belief is in bounds. But if I say that so-and-so is an open racist, and he sues, it would be incumbent on me to be able to cite actual documentation of his open racism. It is a matter of fact, not merely of opinion. And if he is not an open racist - such as an old-line Dixiecrat, openly articulating racism - he has a right to compensation to protect his reputation. The alternative, frankly, is anarchy and ultimately appeals to the sword. And not one-way only - but consider what happened at the Republican congressional baseball practice.

In 1964 “bias in the media” was rampant. It was so rampant, and so casually suggested, that it was taken for granted as being “objectivity.” After the Thomas-Hill hearings and the Kavanaugh-Ford hearings, the idea that any fewer than two justices on SCOTUS know better than that is a fatuous conceit. The conundrum is that criticism - even erroneous criticism - of public figures must be accepted, on the one hand - and blatant disregard for fact about public figures can be a toxic hazard. Another conundrum is that on the one hand, any given journalist has a right to associate his views with any given politician or political party (and vice versa) - but when all journalists are of one accord - favoring the Democrat Party, in this case - a rule inhibiting lawsuits by government officials is a rule inhibiting lawsuits by Republican government officials - Democrats simply do not get libeled.

And it is not to be thought that this is pure self-pleading on the part of a Republican voter. Books such as Slander by Coulter, and others, document it. And it has a logical explanation in the fact that journalism is systematically slanted to be bad news, systematically suggesting flaws in society - and just as systematically suggesting that the government must “do something.” Which is precisely the position of the Democrat Party, and in opposition of the Republican position that society spontaneously creates progress faster than the government can - or ever would intend to. There is a deep problem with systematically disadvantaging that philosophy, which is precisely the perspective the founders of the country espoused.


32 posted on 06/28/2019 4:24:27 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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