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Brexit Britain is wallowing in dangerous talk of national humiliation
The Guardian ^ | 14 June 2019 | Fintan O'Toole

Posted on 06/16/2019 8:40:12 PM PDT by Cronos

Launching his bid for the Tory leadership this week, Brexit Britain has been wallowing in a hyped-up psychodrama of national humiliation.

..A random sample of headlines from across the spectrum tells the story: “Brexit and the prospect of national humiliation”;“Voice of the Mirror: Theresa May’s Brexit is a national humiliation”;“‘Humiliating to have to beg’ for EU exit, says Arlene Foster” And so, endlessly, on.

There is something hysterical in this constant evocation of humiliation. It is a cry of outraged self-regard: how dare they treat us like this?

Yes, of course, the Brexit debacle has reduced Britain’s prestige around the world..but Britain has not been humiliated by the EU – the deal was shaped by May’s (and Arlene Foster’s) red lines. Britain..did get what it actually asked for. That’s not humiliation.

...There is, of course, a long British tradition of phoney affront. When Britain was an aggressive imperial power, it was always on the lookout for intolerable slights to the national honour – think of the War of Jenkins’ Ear in the 18th century, when an assault on an English smuggler was the excuse for war with Spain. Perhaps when you are truly powerful, there is even a certain pleasure in imagining the opposite.

..But a feeling that provided relief from the overwhelming greatness of empire becomes ridiculous when you are no longer a great power. It becomes a mere posture. This is what happened to the idea of national humiliation in the Brexit mentality. At its heart, Brexit depends on the idea that Britain cannot be an ordinary European country and, therefore, that equality within the EU is inherently humiliating.

Britain is humiliated by the EU because it expects to be superior.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aprovinceonceagain; brexit; communistscreed; euroslaves; eussr; fakeintelect; fartyshadesofgreen; fintanotoole; fourthreich; grauniad; ireland; leftist; liberalagenda; usefulidiot
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Quite an insightful article.

When there is manufactured "national humiliation" then you end up with situations like China's "century of humiliation" justifying their 9-dash line, or Germany's Versailles treaty "humiliation" etc. etc.

1 posted on 06/16/2019 8:40:12 PM PDT by Cronos
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Quite an insightful article.

nothing ever has come from the communist The Guardian.       but you, being FR's #1 troll know that.

Britain is humiliated by the EU because it expects to be superior.

what kind of insanity is that?

Britain realized the eu is part of a GLOBALIST plot to subjugate everyone on the planet.


2 posted on 06/16/2019 9:33:05 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Cronos

Fakenews by a fake intellect.


3 posted on 06/16/2019 10:00:06 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Yes, Mr. Fintan O’Foole is the No. 1 leftard at the Grauniad.


4 posted on 06/16/2019 10:06:11 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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Well it’s not news but opinion. The facts arr that the theme of newspapers is of “national humiliation”


5 posted on 06/16/2019 10:26:51 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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Let’s see, n0Ob. You joined in 2012 and I joined in 2001. I would suggest that it’s far more likely you are a troll.

Secondly, you haven’t been yo the UK. There is a strain of superiority complex among many leading leave politicians and newspapers.

Thirdly, the EU is anti globalist. It is in fact the antithesis of globalism as it advocates a closed club of nations and puts barriers on non club members from trading (you know that the leavers want the EU to give the UK the same benefits and that the UK was the one advocating the push east.


6 posted on 06/16/2019 10:39:20 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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Well it’s not news but opinion. The facts arr that the theme of newspapers is of “national humiliation”

dear cronos;

please contact g. soros and tell him that your robo spammer is broken.


7 posted on 06/16/2019 10:41:14 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: MrEdd

the thing is that the UK had a large nimber of opt outs.

8 posted on 06/16/2019 10:41:56 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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To: 867V309

I despise your pal George Soros. If you want to stick with him, continue doing so


9 posted on 06/16/2019 10:44:16 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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>> nothing ever has come from the communist The Guardian.

Don’t recall ever reading a Guardian article that didn’t have a spell of the Leftwing agenda.


10 posted on 06/16/2019 10:45:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Let’s see, n0Ob.

that's just like nancy pleurisy saying "don't you know who I am?"

you've tried it before, so please delete this failed nonsense from your databank.

the EU is anti globalist.

no matter how many times you say it, it's insane

the eu expects to rule by insulating the people from the levers of government.     so do GLOBALISTS

it's a simple fact.


11 posted on 06/16/2019 10:52:29 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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>> the EU is anti globalist.

Is this a recent trend? Along with condemning US tariffs, its immigration recklessness tells a different story.


12 posted on 06/16/2019 10:52:36 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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I despise your pal George Soros. If you want to stick with him, continue doing so

robo nonsense.


13 posted on 06/16/2019 10:54:28 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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It’s no fun being humiliated, but you can get through it with a stiff upper lip.


14 posted on 06/16/2019 11:03:31 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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the EU is anti globalist.

Is this a recent trend? Along with condemning US tariffs, its immigration recklessness tells a different story.

it's hard to make any kind of sense of cronos v1.0

hopefully soros will upgrade its software to make it worth engaging, but I doubt it. I think cronos has been deprecated.


15 posted on 06/16/2019 11:15:12 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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You follow Pelosi and Soros? And want to preach. Really strange, n0ob.

“insulating people from government” is your personal definition of globalisation. So that means you claim every form of government bar anarchy is globalization???

Wow. Globalization is defined by Webster as
“the development of an increasingly integrated global economy marked especially by free trade, free flow of capital, and the tapping of cheaper foreign labor markets”

The EU ia against integration outside the club. Cheaper foreign labour geta short shrift in the EU. It’s all about a closed club. Ergo the very opposite of globalization.

Even if you look at your personal definition, shared by no one else, the recent parliament elections when Farage and co won 29 out of 73 seats is the opposite of insulation too. Perhaps you need to come up with another personal definition, shared by no one else again?


16 posted on 06/16/2019 11:20:22 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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To: Gene Eric

US tariffs protect American business both from the Chinese as well as from European manufacturers. The EU is hypocritical on that point to preach.

What President Trump is doing with tariffs is good for the USA and is no different to EU tariffs on imports from non EU countries.


17 posted on 06/16/2019 11:23:13 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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To: 867V309

You don’t like people insulting George Soros? Tough luck noob


18 posted on 06/16/2019 11:24:39 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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“insulating people from government” is your personal definition of globalisation. So that means you claim every form of government bar anarchy is globalization???

PLEASE tell soros your software is broken!      seriously!


19 posted on 06/16/2019 11:25:25 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

Since you agree with George Soros policies, perhaps you could complain to him that we on FR don’t like him.


20 posted on 06/16/2019 11:27:12 PM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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