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Conservative Principles Do Not Require Us To Roll Over For Big Tech
Townhall.com ^ | June 13, 2019 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 06/12/2019 10:10:19 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/12/2019 10:10:19 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

DAMN STRAIGHT !!


2 posted on 06/12/2019 10:21:02 PM PDT by A strike (import third world become third world)
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3 posted on 06/12/2019 10:28:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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Don't Give Up The Fight.


4 posted on 06/12/2019 10:39:27 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: A strike

click on their ads and don’t buy anything...tell the company that advertised...that they are targeted... or don’t and send the email anyway. They will get the message


5 posted on 06/12/2019 11:29:38 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Kaslin

SEC, FTC, FCC all have regulatory authority over these publicly-traded corporations (not, repeat not, private companies).

CDA (1996) Section 230 specifically provides them with Federal protection from content liability in exchange for operating as “open platforms” that do not act as content publishers (editors).

We do not need to pass new legislation. We do not even need to invoke anti-trust regulations.

We need our Federal government to apply the laws on the books.

These corporations have engaged in fiscal malfeasance by causing politically-motivated scandals that have damaged stock value.

They have committed consumer fraud by applying their terms of service - a contract - in a selective and deceptive manner. (Users are consumers: Their data provides the platform with revenue, directly and/or indirectly.)

Finally, and most pertinently, they have manifestly violated the conditions for their legal immunity by acting as content publishers.


6 posted on 06/13/2019 12:32:05 AM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: willyd

[click on their ads and don’t buy anything...tell the company that advertised...that they are targeted... or don’t and send the email anyway. They will get the message]


I prefer to have them sued for billions in class action suits. Or broken up into a dozen companies. That will get them to sit up and pay attention. Because that way lies capital losses in the tens of billions.


7 posted on 06/13/2019 12:33:27 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Kaslin

Great article!!

Thanks for posting :)


8 posted on 06/13/2019 1:12:56 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Kaslin

“I don’t remember voting for any of these people to run our country. Do you?”

No. However, I do remember an article where Zuckerberg was quoted as saying that he is the “Leader of Facebook”...in a context that describes a kind of developing Facebook Nation.


9 posted on 06/13/2019 1:33:48 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Kaslin
I admire his tenacity, but Schlichter is out to lunch on this one.

Are you cool with companies refusing to let black people sit at a lunch counter? With denying them a Twitter account because they are Jewish? With telling women "Sorry sweetie, this software is for men only?"

Of course not.

But at one time, the idea that the sanctity of property rights gave a private business complete autonomy to discriminate was a "principled conservative position." But this is not a "principled conservative position" anymore; even National Review repudiated having held it a half century ago. Today, mainstream conservatives reject the notion that the government cannot regulate against discrimination based upon race or religion. And it is well-established in the law that the Constitution gives the Congress the power to enact laws doing so, except where the government violates the religious liberty of the business owner, so put that in your cake and bake it.

The "principle" that we can’t tell a private business who it must do business with is no principle at all. We accept that discrimination can be curbed, leaving only a debate over what kind of discrimination should be curbed.

First of all, private property means exactly that: private property. And anyone who claims that the government has a compelling interest in forcing private business owners to conduct business against their will has no idea what it means to be a conservative. This is how you end up in a completely untenable environment where a baker is forced by law to serve clients against his wishes ... under the directives of totalitarian laws and regulations written by lawyers who are free to accept or reject clients at will.

It's pathetic that someone has to resort to a religious freedom argument to make a legal case against this idiocy. A business owner should be free to accept or reject customers for any reason at all ... and "I just don't like you" should be a perfectly acceptable reason. If a business owner wants to reject a specific group of potential customers, then so be it. Professionals like lawyers and accountants do it all the time. Why aren't restaurant owners and bakers held to the same standards?

This country is doomed if someone like Kurt Schlichter no longer understands what the term "Mind your own business!" even means anymore. This idea of government compulsion to conduct business against your will has no place in a free nation.

10 posted on 06/13/2019 2:25:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Alberta's Child
Sorry for the confusion. This line should have been italicized, since it was part of the article and not my reply:

The "principle" that we can’t tell a private business who it must do business with is no principle at all. We accept that discrimination can be curbed, leaving only a debate over what kind of discrimination should be curbed.

11 posted on 06/13/2019 2:28:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Kaslin
There is no actual conservative principle that requires us to shrug and accept being ostracized from the basic structure of modern American society for the sin of defying the conventional wisdom of a bunch of Scat Francisco swells.

There's no actual conservative principle that gives anyone the right to call someone else's business an open forum simply by calling it "the basic structure of modern American society."

There was a time when newspapers fit this description. If you tried to tell this country's founders that this "basic structure of American society" nonsense gave you the right to force newspapers to print your editorial content, you'd have been burned out of your home and chased to Canada.

Funny how we give the Chinese so much grief about violating intellectual property protections, when we find plenty of it right here from "conservatives" in the U.S.

12 posted on 06/13/2019 2:33:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Alberta's Child

Normally, I’d agree with you.

But currently, we are at war with the Left. In war, different rules apply. We didn’t start the war. If we don’t fight back, all your conservative principles will be buried in the dust.


13 posted on 06/13/2019 2:54:00 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Well, that's fine. Then I'd have far more respect for Kurt Schlichter if he just came out and called for Facebook and Google to have their headquarters burned to the ground and their servers destroyed.

Presenting arguments about "conservative" principles that have no basis in any conservative philosophy just makes him come across like a fool.

14 posted on 06/13/2019 3:02:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: SauronOfMordor
To me, "fighting back" means coming up with an alternative social media format that doesn't engage in the kind of censorship that bothers people like Schlichter so much. This is what we did to drive network television and newspapers out of business, wasn't it?

I still don't know why conservatives don't simply do this.

15 posted on 06/13/2019 3:05:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: willyd

I buy what I need, not what they want me to buy, even if I like the ad. Also if it were after me there would only be 15 minutes of commercials per day, like I remember them from when I grew up in Germany. What gets me also is that many of those companies take you for stupid and I refuse especially to buy their products.


16 posted on 06/13/2019 3:29:24 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Alberta's Child
Maybe they aren't conservatives. Or rather, maybe it is BECAUSE they are conservatives from the old NR industrial policy wing. There are many conservatives who'd prefer to wipe out the corporate tax before the individual income tax, or who believe it IS ok to have a war for oil (I think Ann Coulter said something like "we all need oil, let's not be stupid, and how else will liberals fly to South America to get their drugs?"). Oh sure, they hate abortion (usually) and like guns and usually dislike illegal immigration, but they are philosophically the same as the DNC.

The really ridiculous part of the growing Col Schlichter wing of the conservative block is that, forgetting about the lack of principle, effectively they are saying we should trust THE GOVERNMENT (you know...the same people,who run the Dept of Motor Vehicles) to GET IT RIGHT on Google, FB etc. Uh huh.

As I've written previously, Trump will someday not be president and someday we will have a ghastly DNC apparatchik heading the Executive branch. When that President pushes to break up FR or Fox or Diamonds and Silk on antitrust grounds, I can sleep well knowing I didn't help contribute to the right-wing antitrust witch hunt. Oh, and FB and Amazon and Google will likely be like IBM at that time...a once-feared firm that is now still big but yesterday's news.

17 posted on 06/13/2019 5:24:58 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Alberta's Child

I usually agree with much of what you say on other topics; however, on this topic, it is a good thing that more read Kurt Schlichter than you on FR. :)

My opinion is that winning is the only thing that matters. We can always apologize for any transgressions at the Victory party.


18 posted on 06/13/2019 6:29:23 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Alberta's Child

“First of all, private property means exactly that: private property.”

And you can’t use private property to destroy civil and constitutional rights.

These fascists and communists you’re defending are engaged in sedition - direct attack on constitutional rights. But you libertarian lunatics value dogmatic purity and virtue signaling over our constitutional republic. You want to stand up in public and beat your boney libertarian breast, telling everyone how constitutionally pure you are even if it means the republic must fall.

But for you libertarians, corporate private property rights trumps the private property constitutional rights of a sovereign nation and its citizens. That’s asinine in the extreme.

The last so-called libertarian you lunatics ran for office was in favor of open borders and unlimited abortion. Libertarians are seriously messed up in the head.


19 posted on 06/13/2019 6:47:18 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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These corporations have engaged in fiscal malfeasance by causing politically-motivated scandals that have damaged stock value.

I've thought that for a long time. Their actions are a breach of their fiduciary responsibilities.

20 posted on 06/13/2019 6:50:15 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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