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Conservative Principles Do Not Require Us To Roll Over For Big Tech
Townhall.com ^ | June 13, 2019 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 06/12/2019 10:10:19 PM PDT by Kaslin

We are never going to sell people on allegedly conservative principles that end up making conservatives less free. After all, when we sell conservatism, we are selling freedom, in contrast to the perpetual soul-killing tyranny offered by leftist ideology. So, the idea that conservative principles require us to defer to the growing oppression of the left because it is delivered through the medium of allegedly private corporations is nonsense.

Don’t want none? Don’t start none. That’s one of my conservative principles. The corporations started it, and now it’s our right – our duty – to finish it.

The fussy Bow Tie Boyz of conservatism will tell you that this calls your conservative bona fides into question. Well, question away. If “conservatism” means I have to take guff from some goateed 20-something helming a unicorn start-up who thinks I have way too many rights and way too much privilege because my ancestors came from Stuttgart and I wield a penis, count me out of conservatism. I am utterly indifferent to whether the aspiring dictator who seeks to force me to obey is a government employee or a corporate CEO. Neither is acceptable, meaning I will not accept either.

The Big Tech jerks from Silicon Valley are crusading SJWs with a few billion bucks lying around, and they have decided that their target for domination is us. They created the new public square that is the internet in general and social media in particular (check out Glenn “Instapundit” Reynold’s new book), and now they have realized that when everyone gets a say, some people are going to say things their Bay Area pals dislike. As a result, the Instafacetwittertubes have taken to policing the electronic soapboxes against anyone who might cause tension at a Santa Monica Chardonnay tasting. The Bingyahoogles are busy tipping the search engine scales toward their preferred politicians and perspectives, all leftist with an SJW twist. And companies like Salesforce are deciding what legal products, like guns, you can and can’t sell (and therefore, buy) based on what political ideas are in fashion in Menlo Park.

I don’t remember voting for any of these people to run our country. Do you?

But even as they use their power to undermine our ability to participate in the governance of our own society, we are informed that our True Conservative™ principles foreclose our ability to use our own power (in this case, GOP control of the executive branch and the Senate) to defend ourselves. The reason? Oh, well these are private companies, you see, and they can do what they please to limit your ability to be a fully participating American citizen. You can’t fight back using your most powerful weapon, your dwindling political power, because reasons and because.

Nope.

You try to hit me with a bottle and I’m hitting you with a bat. The aggressor does not get to cite my ideology to demand that I limit my own ability to effectively defeat him. What would ever possess me to agree to that?

And the idea that the conservative gospel commands that private entities are somehow untouchable is ridiculous. Let’s dispense with this silly idea that it is utterly unconservative to regulate the actions of a private business via a simple question:

Are you cool with companies refusing to let black people sit at a lunch counter? With denying them a Twitter account because they are Jewish? With telling women “Sorry sweetie, this software is for men only?”

Of course not.

But at one time, the idea that the sanctity of property rights gave a private business complete autonomy to discriminate was a “principled conservative position.” But this is not a “principled conservative position” anymore; even National Review repudiated having held it a half century ago. Today, mainstream conservatives reject the notion that the government cannot regulate against discrimination based upon race or religion. And it is well-established in the law that the Constitution gives the Congress the power to enact laws doing so, except where the government violates the religious liberty of the business owner, so put that in your cake and bake it.

The “principle” that we can’t tell a private business who it must do business with is no principle at all. We accept that discrimination can be curbed, leaving only a debate over what kind of discrimination should be curbed.

Ma’am, we have established what you are – now the only question is your price.

So, why not bar political discrimination in social media, internet infrastructure (like search engines) and in business in general? We correctly bar racial discrimination because it is unJudeo-Christian and unAmerican to create a caste of second-class citizens by denying some people the ability to equally participate in society. The political discrimination we see today bars citizens from full participation in society and in their own governance. A citizen who cannot express his ideas is crippled; a citizen who loses a bank account or can’t buy a gun to protect his family because some software maker doesn’t like the idea of peasants having pitchforks is no longer a citizen but a serf. Why should conservatives allow themselves to be morphed into second class citizens? Isn’t our liberty enough of an interest to warrant government protection?

Well, not to the liberals. And not to the GOP establishment types who prefer us uppity Normals sit down, shut up and turn out on Election Day to vote for whatever Jeb!-like loser they put forward to go to DC and represent the Chamber of Commerce.

We keep hearing conservatives throw around the word “statist,” but that’s not the debate-ending trump card they think it is. We are conservatives, not anarchists (like my pal Michael Malice, whose essential book The New Right just dropped). There are things the state should do – like protect the citizenry. It should protect their lives from invaders, their property from criminals and, yes, their right to be full citizens from nefarious tech titans who want everyone between I-5 and I-95 to nod and obey.

The answer is not always state action, but sometimes it is state action.

This is not a call for willy-nilly, poorly thought-through regulation. Anyone who took Poli Sci 101 understands “regulatory capture,” the process by which larger corporations invite regulation knowing they can control the regulators and leverage it to secure their position and bar competition. The idea is not to impose a detailed regulatory regime requiring a legion of easily corrupted micromanaging bureaucrats. Rather, it is to establish simple principles that can be enforced by the wronged parties themselves – much like the racial and sexual anti-discrimination framework we have today.

Enact a few simple laws requiring social media outlets to allow all matter allowed under the First Amendment. Keep the Section 230 protections – the idea that truly neutral forums should not be liable for the actions of individuals using the forum is sound, just now we would require the tech companies to honor the “neutral” part. Also, require all business to not bar their use by legal industries or on the basis of political views. That way, for example, we don’t have gun control that cannot be voted into effect via the people’s representatives being imposed by woke corporations. Nor would people who like Trump have to worry about having their Wells-Fargo bank account closed or not being able to get a Verizon phone.

We don’t need a big new bureaucratic apparatus to enforce these rules. We have lawyers. Discrimination law is mostly enforced by lawyers suing on behalf of people who claim they were wronged. Assign hefty statutory damages amounts to various kinds of discrimination, allow the recovery of punitive damages where appropriate, provide for injunctions against further misconduct (or to restore banned people) and award attorneys fees to successful claimants – this is how we enforce our rights without a huge new federal agency. Let’s let hired gun attorneys clean up Dodge City (and I’ve seen plaintiffs’ lawyers get awarded $600+ per hour, which will even make Mark Zuckerberg take notice).

There is no actual conservative principle that requires us to shrug and accept being ostracized from the basic structure of modern American society for the sin of defying the conventional wisdom of a bunch of Scat Francisco swells. They started this. An essential component of the unwritten deal with big business, part of the reason they could claim to be political non-combatants, was that – at least toward the masses – that’s generally what they were. Your Uniteds and Bayers might work behind the scenes for or against legislation that affected their rice bowl, but they did not mess with our rights. Yet today, you have airlines shunning the NRA and drugmakers boycotting liberal shows all the way up to YouTube denying services to conservatives for expressing conservative views. These are attacks on us, as citizens, and this is both new and unacceptable. They can’t be culture warriors when it suits them and claim to be hors de combat when we prepare to punch back.

They chose to play horsey. This is horsey. Unleash the lawyers to regulate them into submission.

There is an alternative to fighting back, and it’s not a happy alternative for you. It is you being silenced and intimidated by a liberal elite leveraging its corporate allies to force you into submission and obedience.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: conservatism; google; kurtschlichter; schlichter; techindustry; technotyranny; twitter; youtube
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1 posted on 06/12/2019 10:10:19 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

DAMN STRAIGHT !!


2 posted on 06/12/2019 10:21:02 PM PDT by A strike (import third world become third world)
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3 posted on 06/12/2019 10:28:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Don't Give Up The Fight.


4 posted on 06/12/2019 10:39:27 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: A strike

click on their ads and don’t buy anything...tell the company that advertised...that they are targeted... or don’t and send the email anyway. They will get the message


5 posted on 06/12/2019 11:29:38 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Kaslin

SEC, FTC, FCC all have regulatory authority over these publicly-traded corporations (not, repeat not, private companies).

CDA (1996) Section 230 specifically provides them with Federal protection from content liability in exchange for operating as “open platforms” that do not act as content publishers (editors).

We do not need to pass new legislation. We do not even need to invoke anti-trust regulations.

We need our Federal government to apply the laws on the books.

These corporations have engaged in fiscal malfeasance by causing politically-motivated scandals that have damaged stock value.

They have committed consumer fraud by applying their terms of service - a contract - in a selective and deceptive manner. (Users are consumers: Their data provides the platform with revenue, directly and/or indirectly.)

Finally, and most pertinently, they have manifestly violated the conditions for their legal immunity by acting as content publishers.


6 posted on 06/13/2019 12:32:05 AM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: willyd

[click on their ads and don’t buy anything...tell the company that advertised...that they are targeted... or don’t and send the email anyway. They will get the message]


I prefer to have them sued for billions in class action suits. Or broken up into a dozen companies. That will get them to sit up and pay attention. Because that way lies capital losses in the tens of billions.


7 posted on 06/13/2019 12:33:27 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Kaslin

Great article!!

Thanks for posting :)


8 posted on 06/13/2019 1:12:56 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Kaslin

“I don’t remember voting for any of these people to run our country. Do you?”

No. However, I do remember an article where Zuckerberg was quoted as saying that he is the “Leader of Facebook”...in a context that describes a kind of developing Facebook Nation.


9 posted on 06/13/2019 1:33:48 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Kaslin
I admire his tenacity, but Schlichter is out to lunch on this one.

Are you cool with companies refusing to let black people sit at a lunch counter? With denying them a Twitter account because they are Jewish? With telling women "Sorry sweetie, this software is for men only?"

Of course not.

But at one time, the idea that the sanctity of property rights gave a private business complete autonomy to discriminate was a "principled conservative position." But this is not a "principled conservative position" anymore; even National Review repudiated having held it a half century ago. Today, mainstream conservatives reject the notion that the government cannot regulate against discrimination based upon race or religion. And it is well-established in the law that the Constitution gives the Congress the power to enact laws doing so, except where the government violates the religious liberty of the business owner, so put that in your cake and bake it.

The "principle" that we can’t tell a private business who it must do business with is no principle at all. We accept that discrimination can be curbed, leaving only a debate over what kind of discrimination should be curbed.

First of all, private property means exactly that: private property. And anyone who claims that the government has a compelling interest in forcing private business owners to conduct business against their will has no idea what it means to be a conservative. This is how you end up in a completely untenable environment where a baker is forced by law to serve clients against his wishes ... under the directives of totalitarian laws and regulations written by lawyers who are free to accept or reject clients at will.

It's pathetic that someone has to resort to a religious freedom argument to make a legal case against this idiocy. A business owner should be free to accept or reject customers for any reason at all ... and "I just don't like you" should be a perfectly acceptable reason. If a business owner wants to reject a specific group of potential customers, then so be it. Professionals like lawyers and accountants do it all the time. Why aren't restaurant owners and bakers held to the same standards?

This country is doomed if someone like Kurt Schlichter no longer understands what the term "Mind your own business!" even means anymore. This idea of government compulsion to conduct business against your will has no place in a free nation.

10 posted on 06/13/2019 2:25:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Alberta's Child
Sorry for the confusion. This line should have been italicized, since it was part of the article and not my reply:

The "principle" that we can’t tell a private business who it must do business with is no principle at all. We accept that discrimination can be curbed, leaving only a debate over what kind of discrimination should be curbed.

11 posted on 06/13/2019 2:28:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Kaslin
There is no actual conservative principle that requires us to shrug and accept being ostracized from the basic structure of modern American society for the sin of defying the conventional wisdom of a bunch of Scat Francisco swells.

There's no actual conservative principle that gives anyone the right to call someone else's business an open forum simply by calling it "the basic structure of modern American society."

There was a time when newspapers fit this description. If you tried to tell this country's founders that this "basic structure of American society" nonsense gave you the right to force newspapers to print your editorial content, you'd have been burned out of your home and chased to Canada.

Funny how we give the Chinese so much grief about violating intellectual property protections, when we find plenty of it right here from "conservatives" in the U.S.

12 posted on 06/13/2019 2:33:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: Alberta's Child

Normally, I’d agree with you.

But currently, we are at war with the Left. In war, different rules apply. We didn’t start the war. If we don’t fight back, all your conservative principles will be buried in the dust.


13 posted on 06/13/2019 2:54:00 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Well, that's fine. Then I'd have far more respect for Kurt Schlichter if he just came out and called for Facebook and Google to have their headquarters burned to the ground and their servers destroyed.

Presenting arguments about "conservative" principles that have no basis in any conservative philosophy just makes him come across like a fool.

14 posted on 06/13/2019 3:02:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: SauronOfMordor
To me, "fighting back" means coming up with an alternative social media format that doesn't engage in the kind of censorship that bothers people like Schlichter so much. This is what we did to drive network television and newspapers out of business, wasn't it?

I still don't know why conservatives don't simply do this.

15 posted on 06/13/2019 3:05:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: willyd

I buy what I need, not what they want me to buy, even if I like the ad. Also if it were after me there would only be 15 minutes of commercials per day, like I remember them from when I grew up in Germany. What gets me also is that many of those companies take you for stupid and I refuse especially to buy their products.


16 posted on 06/13/2019 3:29:24 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Alberta's Child
Maybe they aren't conservatives. Or rather, maybe it is BECAUSE they are conservatives from the old NR industrial policy wing. There are many conservatives who'd prefer to wipe out the corporate tax before the individual income tax, or who believe it IS ok to have a war for oil (I think Ann Coulter said something like "we all need oil, let's not be stupid, and how else will liberals fly to South America to get their drugs?"). Oh sure, they hate abortion (usually) and like guns and usually dislike illegal immigration, but they are philosophically the same as the DNC.

The really ridiculous part of the growing Col Schlichter wing of the conservative block is that, forgetting about the lack of principle, effectively they are saying we should trust THE GOVERNMENT (you know...the same people,who run the Dept of Motor Vehicles) to GET IT RIGHT on Google, FB etc. Uh huh.

As I've written previously, Trump will someday not be president and someday we will have a ghastly DNC apparatchik heading the Executive branch. When that President pushes to break up FR or Fox or Diamonds and Silk on antitrust grounds, I can sleep well knowing I didn't help contribute to the right-wing antitrust witch hunt. Oh, and FB and Amazon and Google will likely be like IBM at that time...a once-feared firm that is now still big but yesterday's news.

17 posted on 06/13/2019 5:24:58 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Alberta's Child

I usually agree with much of what you say on other topics; however, on this topic, it is a good thing that more read Kurt Schlichter than you on FR. :)

My opinion is that winning is the only thing that matters. We can always apologize for any transgressions at the Victory party.


18 posted on 06/13/2019 6:29:23 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Alberta's Child

“First of all, private property means exactly that: private property.”

And you can’t use private property to destroy civil and constitutional rights.

These fascists and communists you’re defending are engaged in sedition - direct attack on constitutional rights. But you libertarian lunatics value dogmatic purity and virtue signaling over our constitutional republic. You want to stand up in public and beat your boney libertarian breast, telling everyone how constitutionally pure you are even if it means the republic must fall.

But for you libertarians, corporate private property rights trumps the private property constitutional rights of a sovereign nation and its citizens. That’s asinine in the extreme.

The last so-called libertarian you lunatics ran for office was in favor of open borders and unlimited abortion. Libertarians are seriously messed up in the head.


19 posted on 06/13/2019 6:47:18 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: YogicCowboy
These corporations have engaged in fiscal malfeasance by causing politically-motivated scandals that have damaged stock value.

I've thought that for a long time. Their actions are a breach of their fiduciary responsibilities.

20 posted on 06/13/2019 6:50:15 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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