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Philly judges discuss language access following study of court reporters
Inquirer.com ^ | June 5, 2019 | Cassie Owens

Posted on 06/10/2019 3:13:14 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

How long is a minute, exactly?

Common Pleas Court Judge Kai Scott, thinking of courtroom scenarios, offered the phrase: “She was there for a minute.”

“A person who’s hearing it could think that person meant an actual minute,” Scott said. “But a minute, if you’re in the black community, could be an hour. It could be six hours. A minute is a long time.”

Situations like these were on the table last week at “Why Language Matters,” a closed event for Philly judges. Dozens of judges filled the room to workshop issues of miscomprehension of African American English.

SNIP

The study raised serious concerns about errors in court records, but also, legal experts observed, about language access in the court system.

“That was a big theme — that everyone deserves to have equal access to justice,” Scott, who co-chairs the Board of Judges’ judicial education committee, said of Thursday’s event. “If this is something that’s an impediment to equal access to justice, we need to figure out what we need to do to make sure that it’s not.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: english; language
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1 posted on 06/10/2019 3:13:14 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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“But a minute, if you’re in the black community, could be an hour.”

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2 posted on 06/10/2019 3:14:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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This could be used SO WELL against libs, showing blacks just how much they think of their intelligence.


3 posted on 06/10/2019 3:19:08 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Words have meaning. Learn them!


4 posted on 06/10/2019 3:19:52 PM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: yesthatjallen

“Racial and linguistic bias are also hard to tease apart because language is part of how we construct race as social concept,” Jones said.
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Gee, not this “race is a social construct” crap again.


5 posted on 06/10/2019 3:20:00 PM PDT by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: BenLurkin

Okay, turn on the cell phone and take a voice recording. Let the listener decide.


6 posted on 06/10/2019 3:20:26 PM PDT by ptsal
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To: yesthatjallen
Among attendees, Scott said, some judges considered the dialect to be more like slang or lingo. That conclusion contradicts linguistic research, which maintains that it’s a variety of English with its own grammatical system.

So these judges aren't familiar with depositions, interviews, and trial testimony? That legal professionals, in a profession which exists almost entirely in the medium of language, somehow are not familiar with language and its usage?

That the ivory tower "linguists" with their publish or perish motivations, and agenda laden biases are more qualified to render opinions on what is or isn't slang, and ignore that communicative sloppiness is most often attributable to borderline illiteracy?

Or is it that the Judges are simply in need of re-education?

7 posted on 06/10/2019 3:25:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: yesthatjallen

And in certain circles No means maybe...


8 posted on 06/10/2019 3:27:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: ptsal
"Scott is fluent in African American English..."


9 posted on 06/10/2019 3:28:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: yesthatjallen

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”


10 posted on 06/10/2019 3:28:42 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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“...African American English...”

*facepalm*


11 posted on 06/10/2019 3:46:06 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: yesthatjallen

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I wonder if these ?people? were speaking “African American English”????


12 posted on 06/10/2019 3:50:42 PM PDT by JBW1949
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To: BenLurkin

Day be jive talkin, homie.

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13 posted on 06/10/2019 3:57:55 PM PDT by shelterguy
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14 posted on 06/10/2019 3:58:59 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: yesthatjallen

Conservatives shouldn’t be caviling at this. Millions of people comprise dozens of groups that speak different languages today, all of which use English. It isn’t even a black-specific issue. There are, so to speak, Redneck, and Tough Guy, and other kinds of dialects in the “white community.” Courts which don’t recognize this will devolve into confusion.


15 posted on 06/10/2019 4:01:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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The biggest take-away I get here is an observation of how the curse of Babel is threatening our country of English speakers. Courts can either recognize that, or pretend it isn’t there and plunge the country into worse injustice.


16 posted on 06/10/2019 4:04:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (May Jesus Christ be praised.)
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To: yesthatjallen

When someone says “innocent” I hear “guilty”, but when someone says “guilty” I hear “guilty”


18 posted on 06/10/2019 4:25:17 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Socialism is great, 300 million dead Socialists can't be wrong)
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“A person who’s hearing it could think that person meant an actual minute,” Scott said. “But a minute, if you’re in the black community, could be an hour. It could be six hours. A minute is a long time.”

Might explain the slow walk of some people when crossing the street.


19 posted on 06/10/2019 4:26:36 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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It could have a lot more serious ramifications.

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20 posted on 06/10/2019 4:27:26 PM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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