Trump wins

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[datricker]

I am fairly much an economic illiterate but here is one thing that seems to separate China from Mexico, in regards to US tariffs, the Pacific Ocean.

I'm finding this whole tariff thing all the theory versus what actually happens very interesting. Its highlighting One of the numerous reasons why the wall is so important.It creates a barrier similar to what the ocean does to China. Sharing a porous border with a nacro-state that has a shaky economy is already crappy, Things head south more of their poor are going to come North. Don't mistake I don't want old NAFTA and I'm fine with tariffs if we are going to secure the border. Otherwise its the cities and towns in America already deluged with illegals that are going to get even more of them.

I don't like Mexico I think its a terrible nation I also thing morally and culturally there people are far to comfortable having several sets of mutually exclusives values. I'd place tariffs on them just because I'm spiteful and mean but if it just means more of them here then no thanks.

Like I said that is why getting the wall first was so important it would have been a physical tangible thing of the US government keeping the faith with the people. Thankfully the democrats can't find their ass with both hands - even with Ryan and McConell handing it to them on a silver platter

[aMorePerfectUnion]

[Kiss7]

Wow!
Love it!

[CedarDave]

Trump wins? I hope so. But we have to see what kind of deal Trump negotiated before exclaiming he won.

Won big time! Here are the points negotiated as just broardcast on Fox News:

*Deploy Nat'l Guard to Mexico's southern border on Monday.
*Allow migrants awaiting conclusion of asylum process to be sent back to Mexico
*Provide Job opportunities for the migrants
*Stop human smuggling and trafficking organizations
*Take further steps if necessary.

If Mexico follows through it is a VERY BIG win for POTUS!

[Brown Deer]

I don’t see the details of the agreement there. Do you have a direct link to the agreement?

[CedarDave]

For my #64, paused the Fox program and copied the points off as they slowly scrolled down.

[livius]

LOL! Took me a couple of readings to get it but...I got it!

[be-baw]

I do not have a link to the agreement. True, all of the details of the agreement were not laid out in that Hill article. Just some of the details.

[CedarDave]

One more point Fox announced -
Review after 90 days to determine whether it is working.

[EdnaMode]

Fingers crossed.

[CedarDave]

Lib guy on Fox sputtering, putting up all sorts of nonsensical arguements that are off topic.

Lol!!

[plain talk]

Yeah that’s basically what we heard earlier. It is focused on stopping Central American aliens coming into Mexico from their southern border.

But we need to see what actions Mexico will take — if any — to stop Mexicans and aliens already in Mexico from marching across Mexico into the U.S.

Provide job opportunities for migrants? yeah, right.

[Syncro]

Last I heard today or yesterday is Mexico would make a deal.

Trump told them no deal until I see some action

Lets see if Mexico does the right thing

They need to start with their military just below our border with enough manpower to make the invading hordes turn around and march back down and across the Mexico border

Any other deal is a sham

Ant they should ask Trump to send thousands of US troops to assist

They should all be armed

First use tear gas and tazers theb guns for the violent ones.

Caution: Lots of thugs from the ME in the crowds, Islamists MS(NBC)13 plus just thugs

[Brown Deer]

https://www.state.gov/u-s-mexico-joint-declaration/

The United States and Mexico met this week to address the shared challenges of irregular migration, to include the entry of migrants into the United States in violation of U.S. law. Given the dramatic increase in migrants moving from Central America through Mexico to the United States, both countries recognize the vital importance of rapidly resolving the humanitarian emergency and security situation. The Governments of the United States and Mexico will work together to immediately implement a durable solution.

As a result of these discussions, the United States and Mexico commit to:

Mexican Enforcement Surge

Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks.

Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.

Migrant Protection Protocols

The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.

In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.

Further Actions

Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.

Ongoing Regional Strategy

The United States and Mexico reiterate their previous statement of December 18, 2018, that both countries recognize the strong links between promoting development and economic growth in southern Mexico and the success of promoting prosperity, good governance and security in Central America. The United States and Mexico welcome the Comprehensive Development Plan launched by the Government of Mexico in concert with the Governments of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras to promote these goals. The United States and Mexico will lead in working with regional and international partners to build a more prosperous and secure Central America to address the underlying causes of migration, so that citizens of the region can build better lives for themselves and their families at home.

[Syncro]

90 days?

What is this a Mueller tactic?

If it doesn’t work in day or so SET THE TARIFFS!

[boycott]

90 days?

What is this a Mueller tactic?

If it doesn’t work in day or so SET THE TARIFFS!

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You think Trump isn’t serious? It’s in their best interest to comply.

[Syncro]

You think Trump isn’t serious? It’s in their best interest to comply***

Oh yeah I KNOW that Trump is serious

Mexico; that remains to be seen

Trump will deal with them harshly if they don’t do the right thing.

[be-baw]

Great find. Thanks!

I guess we’ll know fairly soon if it’s working.

[Songcraft]

He'll probably need to build one, if, standing virtually alone, he can successfully overcome all the forces of evil arrayed against him in the deep state, the Dim/Rep community, the media, Hollywood, foreign countries, etc., and get much of his agenda implemented/accomplished, in spite of all of them.

He's like the "Lone Ranger" down there in Washington.

[Bratch]

*UPDATE* U.S-Mexico Reach “Signed Agreement” to Curb Illegal Migration – Details Coming…

Posted on June 7, 2019 by sundance

UPDATE: U.S-Mexico Joint Statement Added at bottom:

President Trump tweets that a signed deal has been reached between the U.S. and Mexico to stop the unlawful Central American migration that has created a crisis at the border:

According to the president details will come from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo who, along with VP Mike Pence and Secretary Wilbur Ross, was central to the U.S. negotiating team.

The Mexican government of Lopez-Obrador was desperate to reach an agreement as U.S. companies had already begun rapid supply chain preparation to avoid the tariffs scheduled to begin on Monday. Think about the scale of international investment into Mexico, done with the sole purpose of gaining access to the U.S. market.

The tariff proposal not only put U.S. investments into play, but massive international investments would be impacted.  [A recent example is a billion-dollar investment in a single BMW auto assembly plant by the German automaker]  An already tenuous Mexican economy was likely to be crushed by the consequences of President Trump’s tariff schedule. [Unrecoverably crushed]

Mexico reported yesterday they moved 6,000 national guard to their Southern Border; and they also began arresting immigration activists previously identified as participating in an effort to aide migrants traveling through the country.  However, even with that rapid action/reactionary approach by Mexico, President Trump was not impressed.

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Elementos de la #FGR cumplimentaron en #Sonora y la #CDMX órdenes de aprehensión en contra de Irineo “M” y Cristóbal “S”, por la probable comisión del delito de introducción de personas a territorio nacional sin la documentación correspondiente. https://t.co/c6cyOckArz pic.twitter.com/XWV3Txcn

 

— FGR México (@FGRMexico) June 6, 2019

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Additionally, according to Mexican officials and negotiators working to find a solution, the Mexican government has begun freezing the financial assets of immigration groups working to undermine immigration law.  However, they refused to identify the international groups targets.

Given the strength of intent previously expressed by the U.S. delegation; an outcome of President Trump taking a zero-tolerance position [ie. POTUS Trump really, really wanted to put those punishing tariffs into place (see Ingraham interview)]; it is likely Mexico acquiesced to the majority of President Trump terms.

President Trump would not suspend the tariff plan unless there was a solid actionable plan of agreement…. ie. “Optimal Results“.

It will be interesting to read the details of the agreement; and even more interesting to see immediate and measurable results.

  UPDATE:  Here is the Joint U.S-Mexico Statement:

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The United States and Mexico met this week to address the shared challenges of irregular migration, to include the entry of migrants into the United States in violation of U.S. law. Given the dramatic increase in migrants moving from Central America through Mexico to the United States, both countries recognize the vital importance of rapidly resolving the humanitarian emergency and security situation. The Governments of the United States and Mexico will work together to immediately implement a durable solution.

As a result of these discussions, the United States and Mexico commit to:

Mexican Enforcement Surge

Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.

Migrant Protection Protocols

The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.

In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.

The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.

Further Actions

Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.

Ongoing Regional Strategy

The United States and Mexico reiterate their previous statement of December 18, 2018, that both countries recognize the strong links between promoting development and economic growth in southern Mexico and the success of promoting prosperity, good governance and security in Central America. The United States and Mexico welcome the Comprehensive Development Plan launched by the Government of Mexico in concert with the Governments of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras to promote these goals. The United States and Mexico will lead in working with regional and international partners to build a more prosperous and secure Central America to address the underlying causes of migration, so that citizens of the region can build better lives for themselves and their families at home.

(Source Link)

The tariffs are suspended pending a 90-day review of progress.  Mexico will step-up border enforcement, migrant removal/relocation and target those groups and entities engaged in human smuggling.  Additionally, they will retain those requesting asylum.

If the new Mexican enforcement proposal doesn’t work – tariffs come back.

If the history of Mexican duplicity is a guide, Nat/Sec tariffs are likely to return.  However, President Trump has to give AMLO the opportunity to live-up to an actual agreement.