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Police seized 57 items from Saginaw Diocese during raid, including 'victim list'
MLive Media Group ^ | June 3, 2019 | Cole Waterman, Cole_Waterman@mlive.com

Posted on 06/04/2019 1:21:07 AM PDT by Jyotishi

SAGINAW, MI – When police executed search warrants at three Catholic Diocese of Saginaw properties last year during an investigation into claims of sexual abuse of minors, documents show they seized nearly 60 items of evidence.

Among them, located in the bottom drawer of a filing cabinet at diocese headquarters, was a file labeled “victim list.”

That information is contained in search warrant paperwork detailing what police seized during the March 2018 raid. The paperwork was recently unsealed and copies were obtained by MLive and The Saginaw News.

The list of confiscated property shows investigators took 57 items during the search of three locations - former Bishop Joseph R. Cistone's home at 32 E. Corral Drive in Saginaw Township, the Saginaw Diocese offices at 5800 Weiss St. in Saginaw Township and the rectory at Cathedral of Mary of the Assumption at 615 Hoyt St. in Saginaw.

The items included computers, flash drives, expense accounts, internal memos and boxes containing the personnel files of now-convicted Rev. Robert J. DeLand Jr., three other priests and one deacon. The police paperwork does not explain the contents of the “victim list” file seized by investigators.

The majority of evidence police seized has been turned over to the Michigan Attorney General's Office, which is currently investigating all seven Catholic dioceses in the state on sex-abuse claims dating to the 1950s.

As part of that investigation, law enforcement in October executed search warrants on each diocese in Saginaw, Detroit, Marquette, Lansing, Kalamazoo, Gaylord, and Grand Rapids.

Attorney General Dana Nessel said she anticipated the state's investigation would take “in the neighborhood of two years.”

5 Michigan priests charged with 21 counts of criminal sexual abuse

Michigan's Attorney General is investigating hundreds of complaints of clergy abuse.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2019/05/5-michigan-priests-charged-with-21-counts-of-criminal-sexual-abuse.html

On Friday, May 24, Nessel announced her office was charging five priests with a combined 21 counts of criminal sexual conduct. None of them were assigned to the Saginaw Diocese. Four of the men were arrested at various places throughout the country while the fifth awaits extradition from India.

'Much to be examined' prosecutor says after police raid Saginaw diocese

Prosecutors declined to say whether diocese officials could face obstruction charges after they allegedly failed to fully cooperate with an ongoing sexual abuse probe.

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/2018/03/it_cant_be_a_fishing_expeditio.html

Searches and suspensions

At the time of the 2018 raid, police provided the Saginaw Diocese with copies of the search warrants and a tabulation of items seized, but not the affidavit giving details to support the search warrant. That document by Detective Scott Jackson outlines the probable cause for the searches and outlines allegations against the five clergymen.

Of the five, three have been suspended by the diocese — DeLand, the Rev. Ronald J. Dombrowski and, most recently, the Rev. Dennis Kucharczyk. The last was suspended on May 19 after the diocese said it received information from law enforcement regarding an allegation of misconduct involving a minor that occurred “many years ago.”

Dombrowski and Kucharczyk have not been criminally charged and the other two have not been criminally charged or named by the diocese.

Saginaw County Chief Assistant Prosecutor Mark J. Gaertner said although DeLand's case was prosecuted, there was not sufficient evidence to charge the other four named in the search warrant affidavit.

Priest is 22nd in Saginaw Diocese 'credibly accused' of sexual misconduct

Civil authorities are not disclosing much on the case.

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2019/05/priest-is-22nd-in-saginaw-diocese-credibly-accused-of-sexual-misconduct.html

Erin Looby Carlson, director of communications for the Catholic Diocese of Saginaw, said the church learned about the abuse allegations against Kucharczyk after the affidavit was unsealed.

“In March 2018, law enforcement provided the diocese only with names, not specific information or allegations,” she said. “The affidavit, which contained the details behind the search warrant, was not made available to the diocese. The affidavit was sealed by the court and the diocese attempted repeatedly over the next 15 months to have access to the affidavit.”

Gaertner said the court order prevented any further sharing of information at that time.

“Once it's sealed, it's under court order that nothing is to be revealed,” Gaertner said. “I can't violate a court order.”

Once the diocese learned the details of Kucharczyk's alleged misconduct, it removed him from ministry and notified the Michigan Attorney General's Office, Looby Carlson said.

Elsewhere in the search warrant affidavit, Jackson wrote that on March 21, a priest who had previously worked in Saginaw told detectives a nun had been assigned by Bishop Cistone to the secure second floor of the Mary of the Assumption rectory and was “going through files.” This concerned detectives “due to the past documented history of Bishop Joseph Cistone either covering up allegations of abuse and/or being involved in and/or the party to the destruction of evidence of crimes.”

Police arrested DeLand on sexual abuse charges on Feb. 25, 2018. The diocese suspended DeLand and on March 17, 2018, issued a press release on its website stating it was suspending Dombrowski due to an allegation of sexual abuse of a minor.

The diocese, with the help of private investigator, also conducted an internal investigation in 2009 regarding the deacon and the fourth priest named in the search warrant affidavit. The affidavit's account differs from the diocese's findings, Looby Carlson said.

The diocese in 2009 informed the deacon it would not be ordaining him as a priest. He then left America to return to his native country, where he does serve as priest, Looby Carlson said.

The Saginaw County Prosecutor's Office handled the prosecution of DeLand, 72, who was charged with several counts related to the alleged abuse of two teens and one man. A jury on March 21 acquitted DeLand on some of the charges, but he later pleaded no contest to three charges. On April 25, Saginaw County Circuit Judge Darnell Jackson sentenced DeLand to two to 15 years in prison.

DeLand is currently incarcerated the Charles Egeler Reception and Guidance Center in Jackson.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: abuse; catholic; child; christian; clergy; colewaterman; crime; dananessel; detroit; diocese; gaylord; grandrapids; kalamazoo; lansing; marquette; michigan; minor; police; priest; religion; saginaw; sex
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1 posted on 06/04/2019 1:21:07 AM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

The last thing I want is to have strange faggot child-molesting sex offenders praying for my soul.


2 posted on 06/04/2019 1:42:45 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the univ"erse to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Jyotishi

There’s a reason why the Bible forbids homosexuals from being priests. This is it. Their priorities are not suited to the task.


3 posted on 06/04/2019 1:58:24 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The concept of celibate priests and chaste nuns is an adaptation from Roman pagan gods and has no relation to Christianity.


4 posted on 06/04/2019 2:05:28 AM PDT by SanchoP (Why does DC hate Americans so much ?)
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To: SanchoP

I thought the celebrate priest was at least in part, to keep the Pope from becoming a hereditary office.

But, I could be wrong about that so Catholics please no flames,


5 posted on 06/04/2019 2:16:00 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Jyotishi
I was born in Saginaw, Michigan
I grew up in a house on Saginaw bay

My dad was a poor, hard working Saginaw fisherman
Too many times he came home with too little pay

I loved a girl in Saginaw, Michigan
The daughter of a wealthy, wealthy man

But he called me ‘that son of a Saginaw fisherman’
And not good enough to claim his daughter’s hand

Now I’m up here in Alaska, looking around for gold
Like a crazy fool, I’m digging in this frozen ground so cold

But with each new day, I pray I’ll strike it rich and then
I’ll go back home and claim my love in Saginaw, Michigan

I wrote my love in Saginaw, Michigan
I said “Honey, I’m coming home please wait for me

And you can tell your dad, I’m coming back a richer man
I hit the biggest strike in Klondike history”

Her dad met me in Saginaw, Michigan
He gave me a great big party with champagne

Then he said “Son, you’re wise young ambitious man
Will you sell your father-in-law your Klondike claim?”

Now he’s up there in Alaska, diggin’ in the cold, cold ground
The greedy fool is looking for the gold I never found

It serves him right, and no one here is missing him
Least of all the newlyweds of Saginaw, Michigan

We’re the happiest man and wife in Saginaw, Michigan
He’s ashamed to show his face in Saginaw, Michigan

______________________________

Saginaw, Michigan, by Lefty Frizzell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbrLDA18C4

6 posted on 06/04/2019 2:22:09 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: equaviator

Those sins by some “priests” may justify the law looking in the file box. However, leaking contents to the media is not to be tolerated. Repent.


7 posted on 06/04/2019 3:16:27 AM PDT by KDF48 (Redeemed by Christ.)
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To: Jyotishi

It’s about time the law did something about that abusing homo mafia.


8 posted on 06/04/2019 3:20:37 AM PDT by exPBRrat (.)
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To: Fai Mao

i thought the “no wives” rule was so when the priest died, his estate went to the church. Nice.


9 posted on 06/04/2019 4:20:21 AM PDT by ronniesgal (so I wonder what his FR handle is????)
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To: Jyotishi
Prosecutors declined to say whether diocese officials could face obstruction charges after they allegedly failed to fully cooperate with an ongoing sexual abuse probe.

Sounds all to familiar.

10 posted on 06/04/2019 4:37:35 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: KDF48
Concealing pedophiles who prey on children properly deserves a millstone and the depths of the sea along with the pedophile to which the concealer is a direct accomplice.

On the day of judgment it would be better for those if they were never born.

Repent.

11 posted on 06/04/2019 4:57:44 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: All

No excusing the abuse of children. This monsterious stuff screws up thier wiring for life. That said, it’s worth noting Attorney General Dana Nessel is a lesbian activist and her first priority has been to train the power of the AG office directly at the Catholic Church here in Mi.


12 posted on 06/04/2019 5:12:50 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: ETL

Have you ever been to Saginaw? Not a very nice place these days. Like Detroit on a miniature scale. Flint at 1/3 the size.


13 posted on 06/04/2019 5:27:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jyotishi

Michigan’s AG is a Lesbian far-left Democrat, who is surely on a mission to take down the Church.

Stupidly a corrupt clergy has given her all of the ammunition she will need.


14 posted on 06/04/2019 5:29:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Fai Mao

I don’t think it makes any difference whether they are celibate or not.

The priest who made a pass at me by trying to kiss me when I was about 32 years old was an Episcopalian priest who was married with two daughters.

He had also been the disciplinarian at a school for troubled boys for many years. I wonder how many of those boys found out about the disciplinarian’s proclivities.

These are just evil men who purposely put themselves in positions of trust and authority so that they can pursue their deviant desires.


15 posted on 06/04/2019 6:15:30 AM PDT by chris37 (Monday, March 25 2019 is Maga Day!)
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To: SanchoP

St Paul thought highly of celibacy, I never thought of him as a pagan, guess I’m mistaken. Thanks for enlightening me!


16 posted on 06/04/2019 6:35:23 AM PDT by allwrong57
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To: Telepathic Intruder

On the other hand, some of the straight priests of the Tabernacle were the sons of Eli, who lay with the women who brought their sacrifices to the tabernacle.

King James Bible

1 Samuel 2:22
Now Eli was very old, and heard all that his sons did unto all Israel; and how they lay with the women that assembled at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

One must be eternally vigilant in such things.


17 posted on 06/04/2019 6:48:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Three days in FB prison for this...'What was "IT"? A DNA XX or a DNA XY?')
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Everyone is fallible I suppose. But to me it seems, being a “gay priest” means that fallibility is an inherent part of what you are. They don’t even see homosexuality as a problem.


18 posted on 06/04/2019 6:57:01 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Have you ever been to Saginaw?

As I wrote in my post, I was born in Saginaw, Michigan. I grew up in a house on Saginaw bay. My dad was a poor, hard working Saginaw fisherman...

Seriously, no. Never even been close to it. In any case, most places it seems have changed for the worse over the years.

19 posted on 06/04/2019 7:09:28 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Everyone is fallible I suppose. But to me it seems, being a “gay priest” means that fallibility is an inherent part of what you are. They don’t even see homosexuality as a problem.

These pervs, homo or otherwise, intentionally seek out jobs where they'd be in contact with young children. Priest, sports coach, camp counselor, school teacher, etc...

20 posted on 06/04/2019 7:26:02 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Newly updated FR Page w/ Table of Contents! Click ETL)
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