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PA Supreme Court: Unconstitutional to ‘Stop-and-Frisk’ For Firearms
Fireams Policy Coallition ^ | 31 May, 2019 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/02/2019 2:01:21 PM PDT by marktwain

HARRISBURG, PA (May 31, 2019) -- Today, the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court issued a significant 53-page majority opinion in the criminal appeal of Commonwealth v. Hicks. Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) and Firearms Policy Foundation (FPF) filed an important coalition amicus brief cited by the Court supporting Hicks in December of 2017, alongside Firearms Owners Against Crime (FOAC) and seven Members of Pennsylvania’s General Assembly. The Court’s decision, concurring opinions, and the FPC/FPF amicus brief can be viewed at www.firearmspolicy.org/legal.

At issue was whether someone’s carrying of a firearm could be used as reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct, and thus justification for police to conduct a “stop-and-frisk” of the gun owner. The court ruled in Hicks that such searches and seizures, in the absence of other evidence are completely unlawful.

The coalition’s brief, which was relied on heavily in the majority opinion, argued that the Pennsylvania and federal constitutions prohibit searches and seizures based on a suspicion of criminal activity due to carrying a firearm. According to the brief, “As protected by the Second and Fourth Amendments to the United States Constitution and [] the Pennsylvania Constitution . . . the mere open or conceal carrying of a firearm cannot establish reasonable articulable suspicion of criminal conduct, in the absence of additional indicia of unlawful activity.”

The Court agreed, noting “that the government may not target and seize specific individuals without any particular suspicion of wrongdoing, then force them to prove that they are not committing crimes.”

“Hicks’ position is supported by several amici curiae, including Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly, Firearms Owners Against Crime, the Firearms Policy Coalition, and the Firearms Policy Foundation. Hicks’ amici argue that the Robinson rule is contrary to this Court’s precedent and to the general teachings of the Supreme Court of the United States’ Fourth Amendment jurisprudence. Amici further point to numerous decisions of the courts of other states and federal appellate courts that have addressed the specific question at issue here, and which have held that mere possession of a concealed firearm provides no basis for an investigative detention,” Supreme Court Justice Wecht wrote for the majority.

FPC President and FPF Chairman Brandon Combs hailed the decision. “Stop-and-frisk practices that harass gun owners who carry for lawful purposes including self-defense, like the one at the core of this case, are unconstitutional, bad public policy, and dangerous,” explained Combs. “We are thrilled that the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania agreed with these fundamental principles and issued such an incredibly positive decision in favor of constitutional rights.”

Kim Stolfer, president of FOAC, was also delighted with the ruling. “We are thrilled to have participated in this case. The Commonwealth’s position, that the ‘mere sight’ of a firearm, with no criminal act, ‘justifies’ arrest and detention at gunpoint, is constitutionally repugnant and unjustified. Today the Court rightly held as much.”

Joshua Prince, author of the coalition’s brief, said that “the Court, in dismissing the Commonwealth’s position, declared that to permit investigative detention solely to determine whether someone is properly licensed is ‘ultimately untenable, because it would allow a manifestly unacceptable range of ordinary activity to, by itself, justify Terry stops.’”

“This ruling rightly puts an end to abusive, non-justifiable searches of law-abiding gun owners, and it should be relished by all those who support the fundamental rights enshrined in our Constitution,” Prince concluded.

Firearms Policy Coalition (www.firearmspolicy.org) is a 501(c)4 grassroots nonprofit organization. FPC’s mission is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, especially the fundamental, individual Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

Firearms Policy Foundation (www.firearmsfoundation.org) is a 501(c)3 grassroots nonprofit organization. FPF’s mission is to defend the Constitution of the United States and the People’s rights, privileges and immunities deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition, especially the inalienable, fundamental, and individual right to keep and bear arms.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; opencarry; pa; paping; pasupremecourt; pennsylvania; secondamendment; stopandfrisk
This is a very important decision in Pennsylvania, with implications for the entire country. The U.S. Supreme court made a similar ruling, as did the Arizona Supreme Court.

This means the police cannot simply stop and search someone because they think, or even know, they have a weapon.

There has to be reasonable suspicion of a crime for stopping and searching.

1 posted on 06/02/2019 2:01:21 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
At issue was whether someone’s carrying of a firearm could be used as reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct, and thus justification for police to conduct a “stop-and-frisk” of the gun owner. The court ruled in Hicks that such searches and seizures, in the absence of other evidence are completely unlawful.

I concur.

2 posted on 06/02/2019 2:02:24 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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§ 21. Right to bear arms.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of
themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=00&div=0&chpt=1&sctn=21&subsctn=0


3 posted on 06/02/2019 2:02:49 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Fascism and socialism are cousins. They both disarm their citizens.)
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NYC used to do this too. I never liked it.


4 posted on 06/02/2019 2:03:22 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (This article needs a fact checked)
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To: marktwain
The Supreme Court case that was similar, but not quite the same, was Florida v. J.L.
5 posted on 06/02/2019 2:07:16 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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There has to be reasonable suspicion of a crime for stopping and searching.

But, in the case of Trump, they would not need to identify said crime. They could just be really, really sure that some crime must have been committed, and then stopping frisking the President for guns would be OK ...

6 posted on 06/02/2019 2:22:47 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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good decision. Wonder if the NRA submitted an amicus brief in the case.


7 posted on 06/02/2019 2:44:11 PM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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Funny to watch the ‘rat candidates for mayor in Philly this year debate a few months back - current (and future since he won the primary) Mayor Kenney was proud to say stop and frisks under his administration had been reduced by ninety percent, while the other two candidates pledged to reduce them to zero - and only five minutes later all three were struggling to explain why the murder rate in Philadelphia had been climbing so quickly and what they would do to reverse the trend - hint, guys, try more stop and frisks among other moves......


8 posted on 06/02/2019 6:58:58 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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https://blog.princelaw.com/2019/05/31/monumental-decision-from-the-pennsylvania-supreme-court-regarding-whether-the-open-carrying-of-a-firearm-is-reasonable-suspicion-of-a-crime/

More here, including links to the decision and opinions


9 posted on 06/03/2019 7:32:41 AM PDT by TooBusy
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