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Federally Funded Study: Common Core Sunk U.S. Kids’ Test Scores
The Federalist ^ | 5/30/2019 | Joy Pullmann

Posted on 05/30/2019 8:27:55 AM PDT by RightGeek

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To: RightGeek
“Contrary to our expectation, we found ....significant negative effects on 4th graders’ reading ... and had a significant negative effect on 8th graders’ math the Center on FLAMING DOUCHEBAGGERY said.... “The size of these negative effects, however, was generally small.” OH, SO THEY'RE "SIGNIFICANT AND SIGNIFICANT but generally SMALL"

These people should be strung up by their genitals.

21 posted on 05/30/2019 8:48:06 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: dfwgator

Cheers!

Oh, the negative, unexpected consequences that proggie actions continually create...


22 posted on 05/30/2019 8:56:23 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: RightGeek

Math ... long the domain of boys in school was to be made so intelligible as to confuse the student to the point of failure.

this was part of the attack by the progressive left against men and the US.

the country won’t feel this for another 10 years... at which point we’ll be importing people for STEM jobs we cannot fill with Americans


23 posted on 05/30/2019 8:59:24 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: RightGeek

Well, when the Chinese kill them all, maybe Math will become popular again.


24 posted on 05/30/2019 9:00:20 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: RightGeek; All

An unenthusiastic, ignorant public is a compliant public........and that’s just one of the ways the Left gains voters.


25 posted on 05/30/2019 9:09:24 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: RightGeek; All
Thank you for referencing that article RightGeek. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Patriots, beware of any federal involvement in INTRAstate schooling.

From related threads…

More specifically, consider that both President Thomas Jefferson and pre-FDR era generations of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices had indicated the following concerning so-called federal power to deal with INTRAstate schooling.

The states would first need to appropriately amend the Constitution to give Congress specific power to dictate policy, regulate, tax and spend in the name of intrastate schooling before Congress could actually do so, something that the states have never done.

The states need to wise up and eliminate the unconstitutional middleman, the unconstitutionally big federal government, from “helping” the states to manage their revenues, such revenues stolen by means of unconstitutional federal taxes according to Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above, unconstitutional federal interference in intrastate schooling in this example.

Both constitutional lawmaker Rep. John Bingham and Justice Brandeis had put it this way about unique state powers to care for the people.

Note that constitutional limits on states as laboratories of democracy is that states cannot establish privileged / protected classes or abridge constitutionally enumerated rights, and must maintain a constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government.

After all of that, the question is how can any state afford to establish its own schooling, healthcare and retirement programs since the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification federal government is continuously stealing state revenues from all states by means of unconstitutional federal taxes according the Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above?

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA! Not Democratic MADA (Make America Dead Again)


26 posted on 05/30/2019 9:13:10 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: RightGeek

Surprised? really? When My wife was still teaching she got the impression that promoting more illiteracy was a goal of Common Core. The experts were not surprised. I suspect they are saying things like that now to pave the way for an even worse follow-on to Common Core. It is part of making everyone equal. You can make a much larger portion of the rising generation dumb than you can make smart. A few will, of course continue to learn stuff in spite of the system and that is a problem that needs to be addressed in the upcoming Commoner Corp. Perhaps reading books at home can be banned.


27 posted on 05/30/2019 9:16:10 AM PDT by arthurus (hs)
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To: RightGeek

Common Core is garbage.

The way it approached math by trying to come up with novel ways for students to solve simple problems is going to leave so many students deficient in basic math skills. In addition to pushing new methods that aren’t as easy to use quickly as the traditional methods, students are often encouraged to participate in both solo and group activities where they try to come up with their way to solve problems.

The problem with this is that, while it’s true that there are often multiple ways one can approach a mathematical problem, most kids NEED simple direction, especially until their brains have reached the stage where they can truly think abstractly, which is usually NOT in the elementary school years.

The few bright mathematical geniuses that do benefit from such learning can be pulled out and taught math separately. But common core math pretends that all students have mathematical talent, and perhaps even worse, that all teachers actually understand what they are teaching. Most teachers teaching elementary common core math don’t even have the math skills to understand why they are using a different method. They just mark students wrong if they deviate from the answer sheet.


28 posted on 05/30/2019 9:17:10 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: RightGeek

Common Core wasn’t intended to maintain or increase scores, it was intended to cripple the bright kids and bring their scores down. It is one of the many methods of redistributing (destroying) the advantage of being intelligent. They’ve already redistributed wealth, income, college credentials, and many other thing statistically linked to European culture.


29 posted on 05/30/2019 9:19:02 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: RightGeek
From my first glance at Commie Core, way before it was implemented, I saw it for what it was: a way to streamline the indoctrination input of our kids by a very limited number of people directing the program, and a vastly inferior method of teaching. I found it very threatening that Odungo and his cadre of traitorous filth would be in a position to control the education of all the kids of the U.S., by legislating that all subjects must be taught in a uniform manner, with uniform content, across the U.S.A. No individual variations of teachers' style or input would be tolerated. I saw where this was leading, and told my colleagues, many of whom just laughed off my warning. As Vladimir Ilyich Lenin said, "Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted."

Seems I was right.

30 posted on 05/30/2019 9:19:18 AM PDT by EinNYC
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I homeschooled, now tutor kids 1:1. Common Core is the worst. Ever. Period. I tell all my clients, “Make sure your kid knows how to do math the way you were taught. It was good enough for Euclid.” The parents hate CC, the teachers have to use the how-to manuals AS they teach, the kids have no clue and cannot explain how to do stuff for love nor money.

But ... but ... they PAID the districts/ schools to adopt it. So of course they bought it. Not all, but most.

(That’s the short version. I’ll spare the rant.) Glad the research is out.


31 posted on 05/30/2019 9:24:27 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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I taught jr high for 30 years. Happily I taught history which wasn’t considered important enough for common core to take too big a bite out of it. Actually was told that my main goal as a history teacher was to support the math and reading common core goals.

Anyway, after I retired, I’ve kept busy with occasional subbing at the school where I taught. I have gotten to teach the common core math lessons. Besides making every math problem maybe 5 times more complex than it needs to be, the approach also favors exposing kids to as many math concepts as possible. So I had 2nd graders trying to do simple fraction problems—before many had mastered simple addition. Maybe half of the eighth graders knew their times tables. I had some who attempted to solve 7 x 8 by adding 7 8s together. Also most problems involved drawing lots of little boxes. If a kid correctly solved a problem, but didn’t draw the boxes, no full credit.

Kids are exposed to concepts, but never given time to master them. Also the curriculum in math seems to jump around from one skill to another without any logical progression. Fractions for two weeks followed by angles the next.

People have been teaching kids for a very long time. Our ancestors got most (not all, but most) of it right. Nearly all of the ‘reforms’ I’ve seen in my career have been failures. Not only haven’t they made teaching/learning better, they have in fact made it worse. The education I received in the 50s was far better than what has been provided in most schools over the last half century.


32 posted on 05/30/2019 9:26:48 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Red Badger

I wonder how much money was spent on and made by 300k/yr dumbf***** with recent PhD’s in education (=approximately a high school diploma in 1955) in order to design this ingenious program.


33 posted on 05/30/2019 9:27:23 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (‘When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.’)
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To: RightGeek

Maybe it’s because of teachers like this.

Key and Peele : Substitute Teacher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw


34 posted on 05/30/2019 9:28:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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“Common Core wasn’t intended to maintain or increase scores, it was intended to cripple the bright kids and bring their scores down. It is one of the many methods of redistributing (destroying) the advantage of being intelligent. They’ve already redistributed wealth, income, college credentials, and many other thing statistically linked to European culture.”

The reason that the richer are getting richer and the poorer are getting poorer is that the smart are getting smarter and the dumb are getting dumber. The solution is obvious.


35 posted on 05/30/2019 9:31:21 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (‘When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.’)
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“Contrary to our expectation,..."

That's they said for the new math, phonetics, ebonics and all the other social experimentation the NEA has imposed on our kids since the 1960's.

36 posted on 05/30/2019 9:33:58 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: EinNYC

Having read down to your post, I thought possibly some FReepers were missing the point, which you seem to have captured.

I also think that it was more about maintaining influence over and vulnerability in the upcoming generation by controlling more and more aspects of education than it was EVER about making any effort to “improve” teaching approaches or skills.


37 posted on 05/30/2019 9:34:13 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Calvin Locke

Many teachers and parents ignored Common Core. They knew it was a scam.


38 posted on 05/30/2019 9:35:47 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Calvin Locke

Many teachers and parents ignored Common Core. They knew it was a scam.


39 posted on 05/30/2019 9:35:57 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: RightGeek

Common Core Sunk U.S. Kids’ Test Scores - AND WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK THAT BEFORE HAND - every damn I knew and we all fought it tooth and nails locally in NC and were all told to go f*ck ourselves by the “educated - professional” NC teachers - union types REDFORED - the ones marching on MAY DAY in the state capital and else where for more teacher pay to throw away - BULLSH*T I say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NC going purple and stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ILLEGAL HEAVEN OF THE SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


40 posted on 05/30/2019 10:23:16 AM PDT by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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