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Who Wants This War With Iran?
Townhall.com ^ | May 17, 2019 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 05/17/2019 3:29:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

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21 posted on 05/17/2019 4:28:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: Alberta's Child

When do we invade the EU?


22 posted on 05/17/2019 4:29:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Israel and India are allying militarily . India knows that Iran is the secret hand behind much of the supposed Pak sponsored aggression and terrorism it has had to put up with .
As long as Pak and Iran remain in tact as they are AFG will now no peace . Take one of the two out that that equation and AFG will also settle down .

It’s time to take out the mullahocracy in Iran ,regardless of what the cowards and pinheads say or think .

It’s a deadly viper on this planet , it’s got to go .
We have the power to do it in . Use that power .


23 posted on 05/17/2019 4:37:02 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Are you, your children or grand children under arms? If not, why not?

Exactly ow are you going to contribute materially to this effort?

War is to be the last and only remaining option to failed diplomacy.

Note that I did not say we should do nothing, but having personally borne the scars of battle, and a parent of children who have done so as well. I see little value to direct engagement in any the most necessary foreign wars. If Iran can and does play by proxy, so ought we. Granted and alas, there are not many pro US entities in the region, and likely none with the will might and resolve to fix their problem, let alone ours ( even after a half century of US beneficence and largess, enough of that!).

If we must engage directly, then it ought to be with distant might. Punish the IRN govt mercilessly with remote weapons, setting foot on the ground only with the most limited and stealthy ( read SPECOPS/CIA) covert forces to direct internal actions of high payoff targets.

And if there is not immediate reonse by the people of IRN with aim towards overthrowing their masters, , then reduce the nations ability to shoot move and communicate physically, economically and morally to rubble and let IRQ/AFG etc fill the vacuum....

If anyone thinks there can be an end to these Moslem wars, they are sadly mistaken.

Meanwhile, our borders are critical, our foreign intel capabilities and economic strengths need to be restores, built and used to make the world America, whether the rest of the “civilized world likes t or not.


24 posted on 05/17/2019 4:38:42 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Phil DiBasquette
purple lipped rat eared dogeater

Wait... I read on past this and knew exactly who you were talking about... didn't even pause. Then it took me a few seconds to remember his name. THAT is a good nick.

25 posted on 05/17/2019 4:41:15 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Kaslin

Another war? No way for me. It took me 50 years of supporting every military action the complex could engineer to finally learn. I supported the “vital mideast oil” justification for decades. I’ll gladly suffer the consequences of not a drop of that oil being produced to avoid a war and to achieve total world domination of the oil market by the US. The Israeli military can take care of itself. As far as anyone else in the region is concerned, I couldn’t care less.


26 posted on 05/17/2019 4:41:57 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: LeoWindhorse
Get real, dude.

To the U.S. government, Iran's only "crime" is that they produce oil and sell it outside our dollar-denominated global exchange.

Does anyone really think it's a coincidence that the U.S. only fights wars against countries that don't use the dollar as their reserve currency ... and considers any country that bows to the U.S. dollar an "ally" -- including radical Islamic regimes like Saudi Arabia?

27 posted on 05/17/2019 4:46:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: exPBRrat
Too bad our once effective CIA has been turned into a ineffective mess.

Thinking really hard....When was the CIA EVER effective. Really? Do know how many CIA employees there are, not including subcontractors? And what do they do, exactly? Ummm?

28 posted on 05/17/2019 4:47:10 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Alberta's Child

I just hit the “Like” button... Oh wait....


29 posted on 05/17/2019 4:49:29 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: hardspunned
It took me 50 years of supporting every military action the complex could engineer to finally learn.

Sorry it took so long.

My day of reckoning actually came when I was still in high school -- and was being recruited to apply for an Air Force Academy nomination.

The aftermath of the U.S. embassy bombing in Beirut put an end to all that for me. The bombing itself was bad enough, but the real disgrace was when it was revealed that the suicide bomber drove his truck past a guard post where the U.S. Marines on guard duty were not permitted to have ammunition in their weapons.

That's the point when I realized that I'd be well served if I just assumed everyone in Washington is corrupt, mentally retarded, or both.

30 posted on 05/17/2019 4:50:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: SandwicheGuy

LOL. Thanks.


31 posted on 05/17/2019 4:51:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: hardspunned

I agree. No war. None.

Not for the mideast.

Not our problem

get rid of our Saudi masters.


32 posted on 05/17/2019 4:57:10 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: LeoWindhorse

It would take 12 hours at most...


33 posted on 05/17/2019 5:02:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It would take 12 hours at most...

Like Afghanistan and Iraq, right?


34 posted on 05/17/2019 5:04:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Out on the road today I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.")
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To: Kaslin
I agree with Buchanan for the most part except for two important things:

1. He does not mention, and he should, that President Trump is against War with Iran and has repeatedly said so. This should be in such an essay, and by leaving it out it makes it seem Never-Trump-ish.

2. He writes: The people who have a problem with Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon are the Israelis whose occupations spawned those movements. No Pat, Israel's very PRESENCE, since 1947, and Jews in the Holy Land from earlier, spawned these movements. The Muslims have ALWAYS been against the Jews since the time of Mohamhead.

35 posted on 05/17/2019 5:08:42 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; null and void; metmom

[ Who Wants This War With Iran? ]

Nobody does, per se. But Iran will bring a big one eventually by attacking Israel. This is the Gog-Magog war of Ezekiel 38.

Iran’s mullahs are talking themselves into it; constantly.

Once they get functioning nuclear weapons (JCPOA ha what a joke) it will be Katy-bar-the-door, IMHO.


36 posted on 05/17/2019 5:12:13 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Manly Warrior

I am on the same boat as you. The Saudi’s can throw a million men at Iran. I don’t care where they buy them but it should not be the US military. Invading Iraq was pure stupid. Saddam was not a nice person, one of his sons was a retarded sado-masochist, psycho but Saddam controlled his Muslim trash. We invaded his country, because W said he was mean to his daddy. Yet the freaking Saudis are the true terrorists. We have problems here at home, i don’t want any more friends or family fighting for one rag head to beat up another rag head.


37 posted on 05/17/2019 5:14:15 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death)
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To: Alberta's Child
Don't be so fast to fret.

Asked Thursday if the U.S. was going to war with Iran, the president replied, "I hope not" — a day after he repeated a desire for dialogue, tweeting, "I'm sure that Iran will want to talk soon."

“The Fake News Washington Post, and even more Fake News New York Times, are writing stories that there is infighting with respect to my strong policy in the Middle East. There is no fighting whatsoever,” Trump tweeted Wednesday afternoon.

“Different opinions are expressed and I make a decisive and final decision – it is a very simple process. All sides, views, and policies are covered. I’m sure that Iran will want to talk soon.”

It's all described in Art of the Deal. He's using the "snarling dogs on leash" of Bolton and Pompeo to stir up some action, and then he's pulling back, hoping for some conciliatory talks with the Mullahs.

It's typical The Donald.

38 posted on 05/17/2019 5:19:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
It’s time to take out the mullahocracy in Iran ,regardless of what the cowards and pinheads say or think .

You first.

39 posted on 05/17/2019 5:40:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

Nobody wanted WW I, either. But it happened, all on account of one Serbian twit shooting the Crown Prince of Austria. Things could easily spin out of control here.


40 posted on 05/17/2019 5:44:38 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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