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The Press Will Learn Nothing From the Russiagate Fiasco
Rolling Stone ^ | APRIL 23, 2019 | MATT TAIBBI

Posted on 04/25/2019 12:43:09 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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1 posted on 04/25/2019 12:43:09 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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From Rolling Stone?


2 posted on 04/25/2019 12:47:44 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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What was learned was that the tactics to put forward the propaganda and spin were inadequate for the task and better tactics, more partners, more reach, and more suppression of opposing views will be needed.

This wasn't about journalism and so there is nothing to be learned about journalism, not journalism as it used to be regarded.

3 posted on 04/25/2019 12:48:58 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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The Ministry of Propaganda is only interested in furthering the agenda by sticking to the narrative.

Those so-called “conservatives” against Trump ar nothing more than Bush league Republicans hell bent on turning the USA into North mexico and getting their “friends” across the aisle a permanent majority.


4 posted on 04/25/2019 12:49:15 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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False premise.

They don’t want to learn anything.


5 posted on 04/25/2019 12:50:29 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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More than anything, reporters should be furious at the many sources close to the various investigations who (it now seems clear) must have known pretty early there were serious holes in many areas of this story

Sources and methods: FBI, CIA leak to favored journalists who then print the story. In circular fashion, FBI uses story as predicate to open an investigation. Just like the Soviet Union.

I'd sure like to see the unredacted info in the Mueller report as to "sources and methods". Guys like David Iganius, Michael Isakoff, Andrea Mitchell, the entire NY Times staff.

6 posted on 04/25/2019 12:56:34 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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Do they have CliffsNotes on this pile?

If it's from Rolling Stone you know it's gonna be baloney so never mind.

7 posted on 04/25/2019 12:58:30 PM PDT by Sa-teef
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Matt Tiabbi finally discovered the truth.

Now if he could only convince CNN, NY Times, MSNBC, .....


8 posted on 04/25/2019 1:00:27 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Russiagate...the Enron of news reporting.


9 posted on 04/25/2019 1:06:07 PM PDT by LiveFree (Or Die!)
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Bauder added the report showed “several instances where the president and his team sought to mislead the public.” He congratulated the New York Times and Washington Post for correctly reporting that White House counsel Don McGahn had been ordered to find a way to fire Mueller.

Trump, Bauder noted, had called this “fake news, folks, fake news.” It wasn’t. And neither were some other stories.

So, yay journalism! You were more truthful than Donald Trump, at times. This is like being proud of beating a fish at Boggle.

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And even in this, the lies continue to be repeated.

Pathological.


10 posted on 04/25/2019 1:10:14 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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False premise. They don’t want to learn anything.

Exactly. The whole old Media complex was out to get Trump from the start.

They never were interested in the truth.

To them, truth is irrelevant.

11 posted on 04/25/2019 1:11:53 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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They don’t want to learn anything

exactly correct. The propaganda press could have looked at a website like FreeRepublic, Judicial Watch or Conservative Treehouse months, or even years, ago and connected the dots. They didn’t want to know anything that went against their leftist agenda.

12 posted on 04/25/2019 1:14:54 PM PDT by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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>> Mueller’s investigation “repeatedly supports news reporting <<

Maybe that is the real collusion. I think the term is "circular reporting". "Anonymous sources" leak info. News agencies report it. Intelligence agencies cite news agencies as sources.
13 posted on 04/25/2019 1:16:47 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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It was not a fiasco. Everything they did was deliberate.

They will have their way at any cost.


14 posted on 04/25/2019 1:20:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Capitalism produces EVERYTHING Socialists/Communists/Democratic-Socialists wish to "redistribute.")
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Learn? They were in on it.


15 posted on 04/25/2019 1:26:37 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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“...reporters should be furious at the many sources close to the various investigations who (it now seems clear) must have known pretty early there were serious holes in many areas of this story, and that a lot of these “dots” were dead ends, but didn’t warn their press counterparts.“

Poor Matt. Must be new and young. Does NOT understand the Democrat-media complex. He’ll be tutored now.


16 posted on 04/25/2019 1:27:46 PM PDT by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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Sounds like a CYA for the Media to me. This clown Knows damn well that the Entire Fake News media Complex knew the whole story was Made Up from the Beginning, they Conspired with Numerous Government Officials to Overthrow the United States Government.


17 posted on 04/25/2019 1:30:29 PM PDT by eyeamok
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Awwwww dude, guess they never heard of communes.


18 posted on 04/25/2019 1:35:13 PM PDT by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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Dang wrong thread 8^)


19 posted on 04/25/2019 1:35:51 PM PDT by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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Conservative media throughout 2015-2016 learned a painful lesson. If your approach is based on telling people what they want to hear, audiences might like it at first. They might gobble it up for decades. But you’ll have quietly lost their respect during that time, and in a key moment, they’ll tune you out.


This isn’t even close to what actually happened between conservatives and conservative media.

Otherwise, a pretty good piece.


20 posted on 04/25/2019 1:42:15 PM PDT by Yardstick
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