Posted on 04/18/2019 9:14:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
Fullerton is an LA suburb in Orange County, CA. Next door to Anaheim, home of Disneyland and the Angels. Lived there till 1996; it was a nice town.
It's basically a small civil aviation airport, over the hills from the Cal State campus (west on Bastonchury).
Yup...that is why the pilot must verbally brief himself and the passengers what the procedure for an engine failure is and how he will either abort the takeoff or continue and deal with the inflight emergency. I briefed myself in my Aztec every takeoff I made for the ten years I flew it. An option, always, was to close both throttles and land straight ahead, hoping to hit something soft.
Critical engine was the left for other than rudder efficiency. It also had the hydraulic pump for the gear and flaps. (grins)
I would suggest that the yaw and roll will tell me more than the engine instruments will. Stay “outside,” visually, a lot of info direct to the eyeballs/brain.
“I would suggest that the yaw and roll will tell me more than the engine instruments will. Stay “outside,” visually, a lot of info direct to the eyeballs/brain.”
Very true. I mentioned the engine instruments only because looking at them to identify the problem wastes time you can’t afford to loose. What you see and feel as the pilot is far more important. If you have good training and have practiced engine out procedures at safe altitudes, you should know immediately what to do. And like you say the first decision is whether or not to abort the take off. If you are too slow, you don’t really have an option because adding power to the good engine may make things a whole lot more problematic than looking for a place straight ahead to put it down after pulling the power off.
I’d take a single engine turboprop over all but the largest and most powerful twins any day. You have twice as many chances to ruin your day, and all the extra engine does for you is to let you crash a little closer to the airport.
I did a single engine take off in my 310 out of PDX. I was heading for my home grass strip in Hillsboro, when I noticed 0 oil pressure in right engine. Landed at PDX to check it . added a bit of oil and decided to take home. Started both engines but left the the left one at idle, got clearance and took off from the 8,000 foot runway. got it up to blue line and lifted off, I was light so and a good margin. Climbed out at about 500 ft/min and made it home. turned out it was a blown oil pump. The worst twin on one engine is the Baron.
“The worst twin on one engine is the Baron.”
Way back when I was learning to fly in the late ‘60’s, it was the Piper Apache. It was “ a single-engine plane with two propellers!” I think it only had 150 hp per side. When loosing an engine in one, you had to remember that the remaining engine could not sustain level flight, it just lengthened your glide! So you flew it like a single-engined aircraft!
It sort of reminded me of the joke about the four-engined airliner loosing engines. When the first one quit, the pilot advised that they would be an hour late. The failures of #2 and #3 each added another hour’s flying time. One of the passengers spoke up saying he hoped that #4 would keep running, because if it failed they might be up in the air all night!
I have personally flown into Fullerton several times, usually on IFR approaches.
When flying family to Disneyland on private aircraft, Fullerton is generally the best choice, btw.
Not important in this case, but there is (was?) a high radio tower always in contention on takeoff to the north from this airport.
Hopefully the NTSB can identify the cause, and make the info available to the general aviation community asap.
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That used to happen on my Motorcycle. It would run out of gas about 30 seconds in. I cannot imagine that happening at 80 MPH, in the air.
Many former Navy folks turn off their petcocks during refueling so as to not feed a fire, just in case.
It is something they have been taught.
Then they forget to open the valves.
And Fullerton...right near FJC.
My best friend's home airport is Fullerton Municipal Airport.
Lived in Garden Grove..for a short time too.
Where did you live in Fullerton?
I lived two / three blocks from FJC.
Lived off Bastanchury just east of Harbor... a stone’s throw from St Jude hospital.
Surfboard in tow...Always got rides...
My dad didn't know...
That was a long time ago....
I lived in Newport Beach for a time too. Got tired of the drive up 55 and the hassle of finding a parking place on weekends.
I might disagree. With your expensive single engine Turboprop all you have to do is lose one engine while airborne and you have a lot of money on the line with limited options.
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So Cal.
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Pulled back way too soon!
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This guy apparently threw away the option of running it up long enough to know he was AOK before releasing the brake.
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