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Secret Service slams 'outlandish' reports of Mar-a-Lago examination tactics
The Hill ^ | 04/09/19 | Michael Burke

Posted on 04/09/2019 6:00:49 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: edwinland

I signed a very, very stringent Non-Disclosure Agreement to learn what I have learned. Why should I break it to tell you things that you will only play with?


21 posted on 04/09/2019 8:49:39 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-)
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To: rockinqsranch
Seems to me a bunch of Democrat noise, and arm flailing to try to create another negative illusion they can tie to the Trump Administration.

That's what I thought of the original article; someone was planting a fake story to make Trump look bad.

But why is the Secret Service strongly disputing the story? Were they left out of the loop? If so why? And if they were left out of the loop will it raise the suspicion of the secret service as to what's going on?

It's a curious case of two different narratives.

22 posted on 04/09/2019 9:02:39 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
The Secret Service on Tuesday slammed "outlandish" suggestions that its agents are "incompetent to carry out forensic examinations"...

No, the Miami Herald's report seemed to indicate that a particular agent, Samuel Ivanovich, had carried out an incompetent forensic examination.

The Herald said this:

Secret Service agent Samuel Ivanovich, who interviewed Zhang on the day of her arrest, testified at the hearing. He stated that when another agent put Zhang’s thumb drive into his computer, it immediately began to install files, a “very out-of-the-ordinary” event that he had never seen happen before during this kind of analysis. The agent had to immediately stop the analysis to halt any further corruption of his computer, Ivanovich testified. The analysis is ongoing but still inconclusive, he said.

Sounds like amateur hour to me, but perhaps he specializes in digital forensics, and "his computer" was set up to do exactly this sort of analysis. If so, that information should have been in the article. Also, it seems odd that he apparently tried to analyze the original infected USB drive, and not a copy. Will the drive still be admissible in court as evidence?

23 posted on 04/09/2019 10:46:10 PM PDT by TChad
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To: max americana
Sounds to like Schumer and others sure concerned lately about him going to Florida to hang out, maybe only place they still do not have sources.
24 posted on 04/09/2019 11:36:44 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: yesthatjallen

“We interrogated them by holding a honey badger to their faces. Shane Dawson tried unspeakable things and was promptly euthanized.”


25 posted on 04/10/2019 2:19:13 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: TChad
My interest in this story is that there are two different narratives.

Maybe the actual events aren't that different but they're being reported differently; two people witnessing the same event from different angles and seeing things differently.

The original MH article seemed odd to me. What the SS agent was reported to have done was amateurish. Could an agent be that incompetent? (Sure, but I find it unlikely since he wouldn't have done this alone. Other agents with him must have known not to compromise evidence.)

So what's the true story?

Did some naive agent plug the flash drive into his own computer or was proper protocol followed?

It's strange there are two different narratives and I questioned the first one in the MH when I read it.

What really happened? Why the two different narratives? Why did the SS feel the need to give their version of events? Was the MH another false story planted by the media to make Trump look bad? If so, who planted the story and why?

26 posted on 04/10/2019 5:53:32 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Assertions that U.S. Secret Service agents are incompetent to carry out forensic examinations on digital media (ie thumbdrives, laptops, cellphones, etc.) is outlandish and not rooted in fact

Indeed. Where they appear to struggle is in looking into someone's purse and FINDING the thumb drive or cell phone in the first place.


27 posted on 04/10/2019 8:00:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Rembrandt
I signed a very, very stringent Non-Disclosure Agreement to learn what I have learned. Why should I break it to tell you things that you will only play with?

That last point is a good one! Have you ever worked in Climate Science? Your reasoning sounds very familiar. In the immortal words of Phil Jones, Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia:

Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it.

28 posted on 04/10/2019 9:10:12 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: Tucker39

agreed, dats stoopid


29 posted on 04/10/2019 10:24:54 AM PDT by aces
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To: yesthatjallen
What really happened? Why the two different narratives?

The MH's "narrative" might simply be the unintended result of terrible reporting by a computer-illiterate reporter. A reporter's incompetence can look like bias.

30 posted on 04/10/2019 5:39:15 PM PDT by TChad
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To: edwinland
The OP article says "Forensic examinations conducted by these personnel are done in accordance with U.S. Secret Service standard operating policies and procedures. Secret Service forensic examinations are conducted on standalone computers, equipped with specialized forensic software, which are not connected to Secret Service networks."

Another report said it was an analysis which revealed installation of file in “very out-of-the-ordinary” way, or event, and together this is contrary to some careless "lets see what's in this thing" by an ignorant employ. But you can choose to belief what you want.

31 posted on 04/10/2019 7:17:25 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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The OP article says "Forensic examinations conducted by these personnel are done in accordance with U.S. Secret Service standard operating policies and procedures. Secret Service forensic examinations are conducted on standalone computers, equipped with specialized forensic software, which are not connected to Secret Service networks."

Another report said it was an analysis which revealed installation of file in “very out-of-the-ordinary” way, or event, and together this is contrary to some careless "lets see what's in this thing" by an ignorant employ. But you can choose to belief what you want.

Thank you for making my point so succinctly! The two reports don't match and (as you could read in my comment) I did not choose which one to believe, rather I said "somebody is lying".

By the way, now that you mention it, if the "forensic examinations are conducted on standalone computers, equipped with specialized forensic software" then why would "The agent [have] to immediately stop the analysis to halt any further corruption of his computer." Isn't that exactly what "standalone computers, equipped with specialized forensic software" are for?

It seems to me, one report or the other report is true, but probably not both. I didn't choose which one to believe but you sir are most welcome to do so.

32 posted on 04/11/2019 5:08:03 AM PDT by edwinland
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