Posted on 04/04/2019 1:12:05 AM PDT by Kaslin
They're like the rednecks, who have heard of Copenhagen but not Denmark.
“Which means EVERYBODY in the school knew what was going on. “
Thing about this is that the kid isn’t going to do something in life where that fake diploma will be useful. Businesses should change their hiring practices. I would go with certifications instead of degrees and bring in companies like Skillsoft to educate employees.
I’m willing to bet 99% of the Harvard faculty wouldn’t get your comment (I love it - pass me a spit cup, please).
My daughter finally decided to go to college at age 27, so her first semester was mostly remedial classes to get back in the groove.
Every other kid in her classes had just “graduated” high school, yet they couldn’t master basic math or English.
Most of them there were Obama’s kids who were just looking for a party on the taxpayer dime. They had no intention of actually getting an education or paying back the loans
1) The ACT and SAT already exist to test literacy and numeracy. If a student ( of **any** age) scores high enough they should be awarded a high school diploma from their local school district. Let these kids free!
2) All employers should ask for SAT or ACT scores and then make decisions based on mastery of literacy and numeracy. If getting a job depended on actually being literate and numerate then our youth would have the incentive to shoulder their par in studying and demand that teachers use effective methods.
Except for the professions and trades,**MOST** of the jobs are learned ON THE JOB!
3) The professions:
**Most** Most Most*** of the foundation material is routine and changes little from year to year. Much is available ( for free!) on the Internet and used textbooks ( cheap!) What is needed are certifiable exams to test this knowledge. But...( obviously!)...Laboratory and clinics rotation experience needs a brick and mortar setting. **None** of the rest does!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Two well accepted exams exist. They are the SAT and ACT.
(from my post #25)
2) All employers should ask for SAT or ACT scores and then make decisions based on mastery of literacy and numeracy. If getting a job depended on actually being literate and numerate then our youth would have the incentive to shoulder their par in studying and demand that teachers use effective methods.
Except for the professions and trades,**MOST** of the jobs are learned ON THE JOB!
Schoo Debt **Slave** is a hard life to live.
The main reason though is that academia is the #1 culprit in the SPREADING and the FUNDING of culturally destructive Leftism.
Reagan supposedly had plans to address this in his second term, which is why the Left pulled out all stops to paralyze him with Iran-Contra.
I was in Denmark in 1973. A Danish man told me that all children in Denmark at that time were required to take an exam at age 12. That exam would determine whether the child would take a college-bound educational route or a trade school route. They limited access to universities, in other words, based on that one test.
You can only set up a system like this in a homogeneous country, but remember it if you have any Bernie supporters in your family.
If we had private education and public education this would not be a big deal. Unfortunately our government wants socialist education. With a private college paying to get in is NO problem. With government funded education you should have to earn your education through testing. But we have neither. In our system we have a grey area. Both government and students pay for education. So the real question should be, “CAn you offset intelligence, hard work, and studying with increased money”? In a private system, yes. In a government system no. In a socialist system, good question. In other words capitalist system pay for what you want. Communist system Governments decree. Socialist which our advanced education system really is society has to make the rules. I don’t know have we established laws against enhancing opportunity through financial exchange? I’m unfamiliar with laws in this area.
Too many greedy people out there in "academia"
“and by “reform” I mean, “Destroy it, sow the campuses with salt, and rebuild academia into something that isn’t useless.”
We can start with the Harvard and Yale schools of Law and Business. Tomorrow we can move on to the Kennedy School of Government.
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Academia no longer “educates”. It “indoctrinates”.
Public Schools no longer prepare the youth for adult life. They indoctrinate them into ignorant dependency.
well there’s terrible advice “...college for law ...”!
We have lawyers piled on top of lawyers piled on top of layers!
Way way too many of them graduate every year!
Lawyers with nothing real to do other then “save the world” are a huge part of the problem!
Nothing wrong with a STEM field or business as a field to study!
The real problem is 50& of the students shouldn’t be there, particularly right out of high school. 75% of the college/university administrators shouldn’t be there!
yes layers of lawyers...the last layer is actually lawyer!
Academia has been gone for a long time. What is left is the American version of the reeducation camps of China and the USSR.
Simple fix, just openly auction off the openings, instead of doing so in the closet.
A litle more complex, auction off say a quarter of the opeings, and allocate the other three quarters by whatever voodoo they use now.
Grades can be openly sold by auction too.
Agree with some of what you say, but it really depends on the school, the demographic it serves & the type of institution. In my career I worked a lot of cooperative projects in R/D with universities across the country. Never had a problem and never saw any of the instances that people (me too!) here rant about.
I retired to a university town in a very blue collar state.
Yes there are leftist loonies here but you have to go out of your way to find them. In fact I am told (And have met one example here!) that the political science department here is conservative. (The prof I met was a retired Navy officer Vietnam vet.) From what of the students I can see & have met the vast vast majority are here to get a degree and then get a job and that’s pretty much it. (Well scream & support the football & basket ball teams!) The biggest gripe I get from the students (all STEM in this case!) is way too many foreign STEM profs & foreign STEM grad students. (It was easily 50% foreign STEM grad students when I was here for my PhD. 30 years ago!). Probably 1% of the students & faculty create 90% of the visual & verbal political turmoil that people complain about.
“I’d rather live in a society of law without order then one of order without law’’.- Thomas Jefferson. Hey pal, you always post stuff to yourself?
Since I can’t edit a typo ...yes!
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