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To: Steely Tom

*** They voted for a government that promised to take care of everything for them.***

I guess you think the continuing failures,fires, and explosions on their electric producing capabilities has nothing to do with US regime change.

Sorry, but economic sanctions and sabotage in order to bring
death, disease, and starvation to an innocent population is an American Value I reject.


5 posted on 03/30/2019 11:21:54 AM PDT by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: sockmonkey

I guess I’m supposed to take your accusations on faith.


6 posted on 03/30/2019 11:24:31 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: sockmonkey

are you saying America caused the blackouts?


7 posted on 03/30/2019 11:33:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: sockmonkey
Everything okay on The International Workers Revolutionary Committee there, comrade?
9 posted on 03/30/2019 11:37:57 AM PDT by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: sockmonkey
Sorry, but economic sanctions and sabotage in order to bring death, disease, and starvation to an innocent population is an American Value I reject.

How, exactly did we sabotage Venezuela's hydroelectric power?

12 posted on 03/30/2019 11:46:32 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: sockmonkey

“I guess you think the continuing failures,fires, and explosions on their electric producing capabilities has nothing to do with US regime change.

Sorry, but economic sanctions and sabotage in order to bring
death, disease, and starvation to an innocent population is an American Value I reject.”

Sources. Bring’em here. Societal collapse follows communism. Its a given.


19 posted on 03/30/2019 12:05:34 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: sockmonkey
I guess you think the continuing failures,fires, and explosions on their electric producing capabilities has nothing to do with US regime change.

It was decades of neglect. Not even your average Venezuelan believes that. The brain drain was massive over the past 5 years. Check out the hashtag #SinLuz on twitter. They have a meme for that tinfoil paranoia. The EMP Iguana.

Watch the explosions and fires in the US if the grid should ever go down and the utilities try to bring it back up.

Blaming the US? Where is your evidence for that besides Maduro talking points?
20 posted on 03/30/2019 12:07:22 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: sockmonkey
Sorry, but economic sanctions and sabotage in order to bring death, disease, and starvation to an innocent population is an American Value I reject.

But it is an Venezuelan value you accept?

Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, and China did far more to destroy the Venezuelan economy and infrastructure than any U.S. sanctions.

The Venezuela policies of getting rid of all skilled workers, and nationalizing the productive assets, did the sabotage to Venezuela's economy.

What we see in Venezuela is not murder. It is suicide, more properly, assisted suicide, with the Chavista's assisting everyone else!

21 posted on 03/30/2019 12:07:26 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: sockmonkey

So you are blaming President Trump for Venezuela’s collapse? How illogical. The corrupt Chavez/Maduro Leftists have been in charge for a decade, long before President Trump took office.


23 posted on 03/30/2019 12:16:06 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: sockmonkey

What sabotage would that be, oh aptly named one?


25 posted on 03/30/2019 12:23:29 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sockmonkey

“Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, the late president’s second-oldest daughter, holds assets in American and Andorran banks totaling almost $4.2billion, Diario las Americas reports.”
“ Alejandro Andrade, who served as Venezuela’s treasury minister from 2007 to 2010 and was reportedly a close associate of Chavez, was discovered to have $11.2billion in his name sitting in HSBC accounts in Switzerland, according to documents leaked by whistleblower Hervé Falciani.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192933/Hugo-Chavez-s-ambassador-daughter-Venezuela-s-richest-woman-according-new-report.html
Buy a lot of generators with that sort of graft and I’m sure that’s just scratching the surface. Maduro has his own stash, I’m sure.


28 posted on 03/30/2019 1:33:36 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: sockmonkey

What I read is that the reason for the blackouts is that all of the experienced power company operators have fled the country. So no, I don’t think it has anything to do with US policy.


32 posted on 03/30/2019 2:30:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: sockmonkey

Our refusal to buy their oil makes little difference to them. As far as I know, they simply cannot get most of it out of the ground, so it does not really matter to whom they sell the remnant that they can extract.

As for the power plants blowing up, what proof do you have that we’re causing that?


37 posted on 03/30/2019 8:11:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: sockmonkey

So socialism works, they just can’t protect their people from evil capitalists. OK


38 posted on 03/30/2019 8:20:47 PM PDT by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: sockmonkey

The Dem Party has room for one more America hater....check it out.


40 posted on 03/31/2019 3:27:08 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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