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America’s 233-Year-Old Shock at Jihad
americanthinker.com ^ | 3/26/2019 | Raymond Ibrahim

Posted on 03/26/2019 9:56:51 AM PDT by rktman

Exactly 233 years ago this week, two of America’s founding fathers documented their first exposure to Islamic jihad in a letter to Congress; like many Americans today, they too were shocked at what they learned.

Context: in 1785, Muslim pirates from North Africa, or “Barbary,” had captured two American ships, the Maria and Dauphin, and enslaved their crews. In an effort to ransom the enslaved Americans and establish peaceful relations, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams -- then ambassadors to France and England respectively -- met with Tripoli’s ambassador to Britain, Abdul Rahman Adja. Following this diplomatic exchange, they laid out the source of the Barbary States’ hitherto inexplicable animosity to American vessels in a letter to Congress dated March 28, 1786:

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ibrahim; islam; jihad; jihadis; marines; mooselimbs; top; tripoli; usjihad
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Well, since history has been tossed in the waste bin for the most part, this info may be new and shocking to some folks. To others, we should have taken care of this back then. But now, !New Zealand! Or, soon to be renamed New Islamabad with the capital name changed to allahchurch.
1 posted on 03/26/2019 9:56:51 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman; Travis McGee

Read just like your book PING


2 posted on 03/26/2019 10:01:10 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: rktman

Islam has been pretty consistent for 1400 years,

Convert, pay tax or die, most of what they are today was done at the end of a sword.

Hundreds of millions killed or enslaved.

Our leaders call them a religion of peace.


3 posted on 03/26/2019 10:02:40 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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and to think we now have them as representatives in the house

we even elected a sympathizer with questionable credentials as president twice

4 posted on 03/26/2019 10:03:33 AM PDT by KTM rider ( .......than to post and , eveidence was wiped outall doubt)
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To: rktman

By the way, I read the Forbidden Manifesto of the New Zealand shooter. Mostly because everybody demands that you don’t. I did learn one new thing, One of the mosques he targeted had been converted from a Christian Church. Beautiful white wooden building that looks like it could have popped up on the plains of North Dakota. He was very angry about that.


5 posted on 03/26/2019 10:08:34 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: rktman

“Millions for defense but NOT ONE PENNY FOR TRIBUTE”

Our founding fathers were neither shim is nor dummies.


6 posted on 03/26/2019 10:10:02 AM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: rktman

Hmmm..
TRUMP.45! (ARFF!)
GyG@PlanetWTF?
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(ARFF= Ameican ReFounding Father!)
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7 posted on 03/26/2019 10:10:02 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: rktman

Freedom of religion was never meant to say — We accept suicide


8 posted on 03/26/2019 10:11:08 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: DesertRhino

They (nz leo) probably have a warrant out for your arrest. Avoid New Islamabad.


9 posted on 03/26/2019 10:12:36 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: KTM rider

They are even at the beginning the Matine Hymn from the time spoken of in your piece. I can remember that from singing it in grade school.


10 posted on 03/26/2019 10:12:49 AM PDT by t4texas (If you can't run with the big dogs . . . STAY ON THE PORCH!)
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To: rktman

“The Holy War is eternal between the followers of the two faiths.” Rais Hamidou


11 posted on 03/26/2019 10:13:45 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: rktman; All; FReepers

Click the Pic


Click The Pic

The Picture Below Is Of Those Muslime Ba$tards Who Attacked America
As You Can See They Are Considered Heros In The Muslimes World!
Remember! All Of Them Were From Saudi Arabia!
May They All Be Burning In The Hottest Flames Of Hell!

Click The Pic For Muslim Brotherhood


12 posted on 03/26/2019 10:15:23 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: rktman

“From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli...”


13 posted on 03/26/2019 10:16:58 AM PDT by polymuser (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: rktman

Great post!


14 posted on 03/26/2019 10:19:35 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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And, no matter how rough the seas might be during the long voyage, Bainbridge was required to make sure the George Washington faced Mecca five times a day to accommodate the prayers of Muslims onboard.

Well, now, that sounds mighty familiar. I'm talkin' to you, UK prison wardens!

15 posted on 03/26/2019 10:20:26 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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Dealing with islam is like beating your head against a wall.

There was a spot of time when some Islamic philosophers had read Aristotle and became familiar with reason and they were able to have good discussions with other philosophers.

Around 1100 AD some imams got together and decided that western civilization philosophy had no place in the islamic world. They issued death sentences for anyone teaching philosophy or reading it.

When no dialogue is possible with the islamic state there can be no reasoned discussions.

What can you do when you are dealing with people who have not grown mentally since 1100 AD. and they refuse to listen to reason?

16 posted on 03/26/2019 10:21:18 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Slyfox

“....people who have not grown mentally since 1100 AD. and they refuse to listen to reason...” Napa nan? Schumuckey schumer?


17 posted on 03/26/2019 10:24:56 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

Many good books out there on the subject but one I like to recommend: The Pirate Coast by Richard Zacks...

https://www.amazon.com/Pirate-Coast-Jefferson-Marines-Mission/dp/140130849X


18 posted on 03/26/2019 10:25:08 AM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: rktman

I guess we need to include “and all who support the muslins” too.


19 posted on 03/26/2019 10:26:47 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: KTM rider

“we even elected a sympathizer with questionable credentials as president twice”

A freeper pontificated to me four days ago that we must “prioritize” and MUST NOT question the Fraud’s citizenship, or the Jew-hater’s marriage to her brother, because it is bad for America and empowers our enemies, or some such horseclinton.

Who knew the solution was to ignore our elected domestic enemies and let them do whatever they wish?!


20 posted on 03/26/2019 10:28:25 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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